I want to give you a sense of where we are and what has taken place here. This is one of the main roads heading into Independence Square. Its just a couple hundred feet in that direction. This is one of the main the last barriers, the main battlement that was made. I want to show you some weaponry and defensive items still laying all around. As ive said the last several nights, protesters are still here determined to take back up the protest, take back up the fight if the new government in kiev doesnt live up to its promises. Everywhere you go in Independence Square you run across these basically handmade metal shields. These were used by protesters to try to protect themselves against snipers and riot police. They have holes in them that they could look through holes to see whats in front of them. Not all shields were made out of metal. Protesters were trying to to do whatever they could to utilize everything they could get their hands on. This is a wooden shield which obviously would not stop a snipers bullet. You can see the handmade handles on it that people would use to try to protect themselves or at least hide behind as best they could. When you get up close to this barricade, you get a sense of just the size of it. The sheer size of it. Its made out of metal fencing. Theres tires in there. Theres steel rods. Theres pieces of wood, corrugated tin. Whatever they could find they would try to use to protect themselves. And then protesters would be on the top of those barricades as well, throwing molotov cock tails. Whats really interesting is, even though the fighting stopped a little bit more than well, about two weeks ago, theres still weaponry all around ready to be taken up again. These are you see these a lot of places. Crates of beer bottles, empty beer bottles. They havent been theyre not here for drinking, theyre here to make molotov cocktails if it comes to that again. I want to show you how they actually used them. This is a pile of beer bottles that theyve put metal wires around. And then they were able to use these wires as a sling and basically get some height with these and really be able to throw these at greater distance just using Something Like this simple wire. They would put gasoline in there, light the fuse. Have about 30 seconds. And they would use these molotov cocktails, could even use them against armored personnel carriers and against tanks. Everywhere this kind of weaponry is all still around. Ace said, there have been a lot of developments to tell you about today. Lets get you updated on the last 12 to 24 hours. Take a look. Tensions in ukraine at a boiling point and the world is trying to avoid more of this. Video just emerging that was taken two days ago in the eastern city of kharkov. Pro russian protesters beating supporters of the westernbacked government. Far different scene today as jubilant crowds took to the streets in crimea, celebrating a controversial vote by the Regional Government to join Russian Federation and hold a public referendum march 16th that could ratify that decision. The move sharply escalates the stalemate over the contested peninsula and was immediately condemned by the Central Government in kiev and its western supporters. In hastily announced address, president obama said it violates ukraines constitution and international law. Any discussion about the future of ukraine must include the legitimate government of ukraine. In 2014 we are well beyond the days when borders can be redrawn over the heads of democratic leaders. Adding to the tension, the United States is beefing up its military presence in the region, sending an additional six f15 fighter jets to neighboring lithuania and deploying a destroyer into the black sea as part of a scheduled exercise. Diplomatic efforts on thursday with secretary of state john kerry meeting with his russian counterpart for a second day and european leaders gathering to discuss the deepening crisis. Following through on threats made over the last week, the United States issued new sanctions, including barring u. S. Entry to those it holds responsible for the current crisis. The United States will not grant visas to those who threaten the sovereignty or territorial integrity of ukraine, and if they already have one it will be revoked in those individual cases. The European Union also threatened to impose economic sanctions if negotiations with moscow falter. Russia reacted angrily to the measures, vowing retribution. Translator such actions do not promote normal cooperation. It is impossible to act honestly under the threat of ultimatums and sanctions. Theres a lot of ground to cover tonight geographically, geopolitically. In terms of military operations. Jim acosta is at white house and joining us. And anna coren is in crimea, and Jill Dougherty is here with me, currently a senior fellow at Harvard UniversitysKennedy School of government. Jim, let me start with you at the white house. Breaking news president obamas phone call with Vladimir Putin. What do we know about it . Reporter thats right, anderson. The white house says president obama and vladamir putin spoke for about an hour this afternoon. The president reiterated his position that ukraines sovereignty has been violated by russia. The president talked about the steps that he took today, including that authorization for sanctions against russian targets. But anderson, the president also talked about this path forward that theyd like to see take shape that off ramp that youve heard so much about over the last couple of days. The president is proposing direct talks between the ukrainians and russians and International Observers on the ground in ukraine to protect rights of ethnic russians. Interesting to read the kremlin version of this phone call. They say the president called Vladimir Putin and that russia, according to this statement from the kremlin, cannot ignore the calls for help from these regions. So Vladimir Putin appears to be holding his ground here, anderson. But he also says in that statement of the kremlin that the relationship between the United States and russia should not be sacrificed for individual differences. So that is an indication that perhaps putin is starting to feel the pressure here. And i talked to a Senior Administration official earlier this evening who said that while the president and Vladimir Putin had their disagreements over ukraine and crimea during this phone call, they also agreed that there should be a path forward, a diplomatic path forward. But of course theres a difference between wanting one and finding one, anderson. And meetings will continue between secretary of state john kerry and the foreign minister of russia, lavrov. Appreciate the update, jim. Thank you very much. I want to go to anna coren on the ground in crimea being told she can no longer broadcast from her location in crimea. She joins us now by phone. Anna, whats going on there . Why are you no longer able to broadcast . Reporter really bizarre, anderson. A couple of hours ago the management of our hotel where weve been staying now for over a week, weve got a team here, told us we basically had to shut down our operation or wed be kicked out. We asked for the reason. They didnt give us one. Very unusual that basically said stop broadcasting or well kick you out. We get the feeling, very strong feeling that they are getting pressure, whether it be from local militia who obviously had that major run in with u. N. Special envoy robert serry yesterday and basically drove him out of the country or whether its coming from the new crimean government which is very much pro russian. So obviously we know they dont like the west, they dont like the United States, they do not like europe. So obviously working for cnn which is an American News organization, when they hear that there is a great deal of hostility. So youre either getting the message out thats prorussian or they dont want to hear it. In terms of what youve seen on the ground for the last 24 hours or so, to you what are the major developments . Reporter definitely the major news today is this referendum. We were outside parliament where they decided to go ahead with these votes on the 16th of march in ten days time. Theyve brought it forward. And that will basically decide whether crimea stays with ukraine or breaks away and becomes part of the Russian Federation. And every Single Person that we spoke to today they were celebrating this news. They felt that finally people power had arrived to the crimea, that this was their opportunity to return to the motherland. Crimea and russia had such close historical and cultural ties. And some of the people that we spoke to, they were born in crimea when it was part of the soviet union. So as far as theyre concerned, they want russia to be here, the government of crimea wants the Russian Troops to be here. In fact, deputy Prime Minister said that the only troops that should be in crimea right now are the russians. Any other force would be considered to be an occupying force. So theyve basically given the ukrainian troops an allty may ultimatum, swear your allegiance to russia or leave the country immediately. Anna coren, you know this better than anybody. So does your team. Please be careful on the ground in crimea. These are dangerous days. Appreciate you being there. Perspective on a multidimensional puzzle from steven hadley, National Security adviser during the george w. Bush administration, he joins us now. And Jill Dougherty joins us, as well. The news that president obama and Vladimir Putin spoke by telephone earlier tonight, you have obviously been a key player in similar conversations over the years. How did these conversations go . I find the idea of their spending an hour together on the phone fascinating. When the president tells Vladimir Putin hes violating ukraines sovereignty how does the conversation go . Its a little unusual, i think. There have been a lot of conversations between president obama and president putin. A little unusual in the sense that putin, for all the discussion of off ramps, doesnt sound like he wants one. Theyve accelerated the date for the referendum. The referendum will now simply be asked to confirm a decision taken by this russiancontrolled parliament for the crimea to become part of russia. The news today was that the russian duma is taking steps to facilitate the admission of crimea into russia if or maybe we should say when they so request. So i think one of the there may be a bit of a disconnect, a lot of discussion about Diplomatic Solutions and off ramps but not much indication this is having an impact on president putin from this grab of crimea. And steve, how do you think this can help president obama can possibly stop this at this point . It looks as if de facto as you just mentioned crimea is moving toward union with russia. What can the u. S. Realistically at this point do . We probably cannot stop it. It seems to me what the administration is trying to do is to delegitimize the referendum. It is after all something that was the resolution was adopted by a quote parliament unquote which was taken over as i understand it about a week ago by some armed thugs. They installed the current Prime Minister who represents a russia union party that got less than 10 of the vote in the last election in crimea. So i think what they can do is try to delegitimize it, to say you cant have a fair referendum when Russian Troops are occupying the place, that where you have these kind of referendums that have led to secession as in south sudan for example it was something that was agreed by the Sudanese Government and those in south sudan that wanted to leave. It was a way of resolving a twoyear war. So this is really fairly unprecedented. I think what the administration will do is one, try to delegitimize it, two make clear that they are not going to accept it, three do everything they can to get the Ukrainian Government on a firm footing, get it on its feet, solve its economic problems, take strong action to try to deter putin from doing this again, make clear that western institutions are open to these countries. And what was hoped would be that ukraine would become a prosperous part of the west and at some point the people of crimea may reconsider this upcoming decision. But in terms of stopping the referendum and stopping some kind of formal incorporation into russia, very tough. Steven, is it clear to you that Vladimir Putin even wants crimea to be part of russia . I mean, theres an argument to be made that he can achieve just as much in fact maybe even more by not alienating other parts of the ukraine by accepting it as part of russia. Having it be an autonomous region within ukraine. If there is a climb down it might be that. One of the problems that this kind of thing has it really ail general clear ail general yates ukraine and is going to push them to the west which of course is something that putin does not want. But Jill Dougherty said something two nights ago which was absolutely right. One of his strategies may be that if he can grab onto crimea and make it basically a territorial dispute between russia and ukraine, its going to be the europeans will then be very reluctant to incorporate ukraine into the e. U. , for example, or into nato or any of the other institutions. Because theyre not going to want to incorporate a territorial dispute with russia into european institutions. So part of the strategy may be to freeze ukraine in this never neverland so that russia will have another shot at getting what it really wants, which is to bring ukraine into more directly its institutions, its reconstituted empire if you will. And damage ukraine so that europe wont touch it essentially. Steven hadley, appreciate you being on again tonight. Coming up next more on the military options after a number of ominous sounding moves today on both sides, russian air exercises some american actions as well. The question is what do they add up to exactly . Retired Major General james spider marks is standing by to help us make sense of it all. Well be right back. Predibut, manufacturings a prettin the United States do. Means advanced technology. We learned that Technology Allows us to be craft oriented. 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You are so outta here aah [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of greattasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. Nutrition in charge™. Looking at newly uncovered video of a chase and confrontation between Ukrainian Forces and prorussian socalled selfdefense forces on tuesday. Right now the situation all across crimea is tense obviously. We were talk to our reporter anna coren on the ground. So tense president obama and russian president vladamir putin spoke again by phone this afternoon for an hour. That is the breaking news. They talked, president obama offering a diplomatic way out, including russianukrainian talks. International monitors, Russian Military stand down as well as ukrainian elections in may. That said todays moves do not tell any easing of the crisis. We want to take a look at capabilities and possibilities. Joined by jim sciutto and retired army major james spider marks. Appreciate all of you being with us. General marks, the u. S. Is moving assets into the region. Talking about fighter jets to destroyers. Walk us through whats happening with those assets. What we see right now, jim, thanks. If you could put the f 15s, the air force is moving f 15s into lithuania and some f16s into poland. We have the positioning of highspeed attack aircraft. We also have the uss truxton a destroyer, which has left from the eastern, about to go through the bosphorus into the region. So thats what we see happening right now with u. S. Forces in the region. At the same time we have these russian moves, some of which are pretty aggressive. I was going to show you a satellite map after sevastopol. This is the major port on the southern tip of crimea. Here you have this zeroing in here. These are ukrainian ships. Then you have these three russian ships that have moved in, in a blockade. Is that how it works . It does. The way you have to neutralize naval ships you either board them, in other words take control of them, you sink them to the bottom, or you blockade them so their function cant be performed. This is the least aggressive if you will of the possibilities. Whats interesting, you mentioned sinking a ship because the other blockade theyve been doing is further up the coast of crimea at another base here where the russians actually scuttled an old mothballed cruiser to block the entrance and block some ships inside. You know better than me, is that an act of war . No, thats not. What theyre doing again is theyre isolating that portion of the Ukrainian Navy in this port so they cant do anything. They cant use those ships. Really what the russians are doing are saying we really have taken complete control, ground, sea, air, space, of crimea. We own it. And shots arent being fired. Facts on the ground as they say. General, theres word of massive air defense drills also going on in russia not far from the border. What more do we know about it . What are the details . What we know is the russians are conducting an air defense exercise, an air defense exercise by its very nature is not offensive, its not provocative, and its clearly the right thing for putin to do. This is the message that he is sending to the rest of the international community, which is if you, international community, want to get frisky with me, im getting myself prepared for a possible military operation. This is what the exercise has right now, up to 3500 troops, 1,000 pieces of kit as we say so thats aircraft and thats radar on the ground, and primarily surfacetoair missiles. Thats the real what i would call the pointy tip of this spear in terms of the exercise. And general marks, just finally and very briefly, the movements by u. S. Forces, the jets, the destroyer, how much is that really geared toward russia and how much is it really geared to other u. S. Allies, to lithuania, poland and countries which are getting nervous . This is really done by the United States to bolster our relationships with our partners in the region. Thats the intended recipient. Russia is looking at this. Putin is looking at this. This does nothing in terms of altering what hes trying to achieve in crimea. And clearly his strategic efforts in the greater ukraine. Well see how that works out later on. All right. General marks appreciate it. Jim sciutto as well. You can check out more on the story at cnn. Com anytime. Just ahead, in this broadcast the ukraine crisis from putins perspective. We always think its important to try to look at things from all different angles on this program. And its very easy to call Vladimir Putin deranged or whatever some others have called him. But we wanted to look at what his strategy, what his mind frame is, how he sees this conflict. Russian expert steven cohen says putin did not create the crisis but it was imposed on him. Well talk to him ahead. [ male announcer ] this is the cat that drank the milk. [ meows ]. And let in the dog that woke the man who drove to the control room [ woman ] driverless mode engaged. Find parking space. [ woman ] parking space found. [ male announcer ]. That secured the data that directed the turbines that powered the farm that made the milk that went to the store that reminded the man to buy the milk that was poured by the girl who loved the cat. [ meows ] the internet of everything is changing everything. Cisco. Tomorrow starts here. Chalky. Not chalky. Temporary. 24 hour. Lots of tablets. One pill. You decide. Prevent acid with prevacid 24hr. So i got the new nokia lumia icon. Its got 1080p video, three times zoom, and a twentymegapixel sensor. 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None of us wants to be part of the European Union. There have been a lot of voices this week framing this crisis as Vladimir Putin wanting to restore russia to its former imperial glory. Steven cohen does not agree. Hes a Professor Emeritus at nyu and Princeton University and authority of soviet fates and lost alternatives. He says putin did not create the ukrainian crisis it was imposed on him. He joins us along with Jill Dougherty. What do you mean by that, that vladamir putin believes this was imposed upon him . He looked at what was happening in ukraine beginning in november, he looked at what was happening in kiev and saw nato coming at him again. Why he saw that we need to roll back to the 1990s. Its been american policy, the policy of the democratic and republican party, to move western power, spearheaded by nato, from berlin to russias borders. It is on russias borders in the baltic, its at poland. So stop and think for a minute what we have now. We have moved. We, all of us have moved the old cold war divide which was in berlin, which we survived for 45 years, right to russias borders. Imagine what that means. And based on what your military people said in the previous segment, we are one step away for something much worse. And what this means to me is that american policy toward postsoviet russia has collapsed. We need a new policy. Now, putin represents the opportunity for a new policy. But he demands two things. He demands that he be treated as an equal. That means that russia has a legitimate National Security interest at least on its borders. And that nato expansion stop. Once we say and do that, everybody will sit down and sort this out. Professor cohen, right now this is going to be debated ad infinitum, but how coyou can you say putin can have it both ways . Right now hes standing up for his rights but damaging the relationship with the United States and to a certain extent with europe. So how does he realistically protect his interests, which he said tonight are very important to have a Good Relationship . How does he do both at the same time . Jill, since we knew each other in moscow we can be jill and stephen, not professor. Heres the problem as i see it when we move toward negotiation. Youve got two completely different narratives, two different stories about whats happened since november. Youve got to find the common ground. Second problem is, putin doesnt trust our president obama. He thinks hes weak, irresolute, has a short attention span. And putin believes hes been betrayed by obama. Putin trusts the chancellor of germany, merkel. So i think, jill, that if youre going to reconcile these conflicts, that merkel has to play a leading role. I think thats absolutely crucial now. Theres a lot of i just talked to a lot of people on the ground today in kiev who say that they are starting to feel almost as pawns between russia and the west. And we dont hear a lot of people talking about what the people of ukraine actually want. Where did they fit into this . Anderson, i dont mean to criticize you because i do this sometimes myself. But there is no the people of ukraine. There is no ukraine. At a minimum there are two. History or god depending on who you think controls our destiny created two ukraines, one leans toward russia, one toward the west. Theyre about equally divided. The russian leaning part is in the south and in the east and of course crimea. The western leading part is in the west and looks to poland and lithuanian and the European Union. This is the reality. You asked me why putin felt this was imposed on him. But why in november did the United States and the European Union say to the ukrainians, you must choose between russia and the west. At that moment this is little reported but well documented, putin said hold on, guys, why does it have to be either or . I, russia, am willing to join the European Union to bail ukraine out of its terrible economic crisis. We in the west said no ukraine must choose. Why would you ask a country profoundly divided by history to make a choice . Why would you do that . Stephen cohen, appreciate you being on the program. Coming up, what people in kievs Independence Square think of the referendum. You just heard professor cohen saying there is no ukraine, at best there are two. Well talk to jill about that later. Thats certainly a controversial idea and one that people here find deeply offensive if you say that to people here. All throughout the day ive been talking to people who are brought to tears by the idea of ukraine breaking up. Well talk to some of them ahead. [ male announcer ] did you know that if you wear a partial, youre almost twice as likely to lose your supporting teeth . Try poligrip for partials. Poligrip helps minimize stress which may damage supporting teeth by stabilizing your partial. 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Its covered by most health plans. There was a boy who traveled to a faraway place. Where castles were houses and valiant knights stood watch. For the kingdom was vast, and monsters lurked in the deep, and the good queen showed the boy it could all be real. Avo all of great britain, all in one place. Book on expedia before march 16th and save up to thirty percent. As we reported the top of the program, regional vote could happen in ten days and a referendum for crimea to split from ukraine and become part of russia. Ukrainian ambassador to the United Nations calls the referendum illegal. In kievs Independence Square here, people still mourning the dead, demonstrating. They are remaining here determined to stay here. I spoke with people today to get their reaction on the idea of the referendum. [ chanting ] in kievs Independence Square, a group of mother process tests for peace. A few dozen women barely noticed by the crowds. The protesters still living in the square pastime with daily chores. The sidewalks are still torn up, cobblestones left in piles in case violence breaks out again. With word that crimea will seek a referendum on joining the Russian Federation, there is anger and fear, confusion over what happens next. Would it be acceptable for you if crimea became part of russia . Translator my mom is from russia, this woman says, and she kept telling me theyll not give up on crimea. I keep telling her its impossible breaking up crimea from ukraine. Impossible just impossible. Thats the way it is now. Were used to having crimea. We cannot imagine it otherwise. It is hard to imagine for many the pace of events here the last few weeks. Translator i couldnt miss coming here, this woman says, to pay tribute to those who died here. I feel so sorry for those who lost their lives, for those who got wounded and are still recovering. Still cant believe Something Like this could have happened in ukraine. All thats happened here is still not clear. Some still search for answers. This sign says sasha kopones was killed here but his girlfriend is looking for a witness to his death. Dozens who protested are still missing. Leonid has vanished. Misha, as well. The sign says his friend andre is looking for him. Death is tragic in any case, this man says, but these people were not dying for nothing. They were dying for the idea for ukraine. Im a military man. Ive seen things in my life. But still people died for their beliefs. This is very emotional. On the central stage, a young man sings, another stands nearby. He speaks no words, looks straight ahead. His countrys flag held tightly in his hands. Joining me now is ukrainian activist katarina krug. Appreciate you being with us. We just heard in that piece a woman saying its unthinkable the idea of crimea breaking away and becoming part of russia. Previously a professor steven cohen said he doesnt think theres a ukraine. At best theres two ukraines, one oriented toward the west, one oriented toward russia. When you hear that what do you make of it . The idea theres not a ukraine . To be honest ive heard it many many times in my life and especially when i was traveling abroad and speaking about ukraine to many people in europe as well. And everyone was saying that yes, there is western ukraine and eastern ukraine. All the time i was trying to convince and bring facts to people that there is one ukraine but we have different people who think different way. And its normal. Its really very well we have different points of view. Right now its very important to understand that, yes, we have people in ukraine who might have closer relations with the European Union or russia, so on and so on. The question right now is not with whom you would like to have closer relations with but in what country you would like to live in. So its interesting to me the question is much more bigger, much more important. Thats why we dont have to mix them. And while answering the first question, we might say yes, i want to ukrainian, just like to have ukrainian citizenship but i would prefer my country to have closer relations with russia. And this is the thing which is right now happening in crimea, in donetsk and luhans when people supporting this idea of staying within ukrainian borders. There are a lot of people like native russians just like by origin and crimean taught us for example saying yes, we arent ukrainians but were ukrainian citizens and want to remain them. Tartar muslims who were expelled from crimea by stalin, many have returned in the last years. And theyre a big presence in crimea. What do you think is going to happen with this referendum . 60 of the people there are russianspeaking. There are these other groups, the tartars and others. What do you think will happen . To be honest, its really hard to predict. Crimea was a very sensitive issue for ukraine. We always knew that crimea was more prorussian than proeuropean or ukrainian. Obviously because of the People Living there. A lot of russians, we have russian fleet there which means there are a lot of soldiers and military men. And to be honest, a lot of tourists just like during vacations are coming to crimea. So its normal. Its obvious that they have closer relation to russia. But to be honest, we dont know what about in political terms how are they going to vote. The problem with referendum as referendum right now in ukraine because of laws, central laws in ukraine they arent perfect. Its very easy to falsify results. Unfortunately knowing how this scheme works in ukraine, we are expecting those results they wont show the real picture of what people think and what people know. And also there is very important thing here you mentioned tartars who by stalin were expelled, taken out from their native land. When russians say that crimea was always russian, its not true. Basically when were looking at the history, this is the motherland of crimean tartars. Right now when people who have been living there for centuries, when they are saying that we would like to remain within ukrainian borders, this is very Important Message for us. Because when were speaking about minorities and when were speaking about minorities strides, first of all we have to respect voice of tartars and things they would like to have. Are you frightened now . Are you scared . These are obviously very difficult days, frightening days. Its really very hard. Just in the beginning youve mentioned really very correctly that in kiev were still mourning. And still were basically in Independence Square stopped on the 20th of february when we had those snipers killing people. Its really very hard for us to overcome this moment. The thing is that we had even bigger threat because everyone understands that what happened here compared to war with russia, military superpower in the region, there is nothing to compare. And its huge emotional stress and huge emotional pressure. And yesterday i was talking to a friend of mine from poland, and she was asking basically very simple question. We had different messages in our own media. Please explain me in two sentences whats happening in ukraine, what might be happening next. And i said, situation is really very tough. And we feel this pressure every time, every day with messages that someone was kidnaped or attempt to be kidnapped, that we have Russian Military occupying and now blocking a naval base. But at this very moment, with this puppet government which is issuing statements about referendum, about joining russia, it looks like either were starting military actions or we have lost crimea. I appreciate you being on tonight. Its very late. Its about 3 30 a. M. 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I spoke to Vitali Klitschko lead of the Ukrainian Democratic Alliance for a reform party, heavyweight champion boxer, as well. What do you want people in the United States, in europe to know about whats happening here . Whats your message to them . We appreciate for support, for moral support from all the friends of ukraine and everybody in ukraine everybody in the world want to see ukraine as modern and country with stable Political Economic situation. And thats main goal. We ukrainians want to see ukraine as a country with european standards of life without corruption, with rule of law. And with human rights. Are you hopeful or do you believe real change can take place here . Yes, of course. We have huge potential. Ukraine have huge potential. Thats why we have to united to make changes in our country. Its possible. You can watch the full interview online at ac360. Com. Im joined by ben wedeman whos just gotten out of crimea and also Jill Dougherty. Ben, you spent the last week in crimea. As you look back on it what really stands out to you . Where do you see this going . What you feel is that on the one hand you have a very vocal minority of russianspeaking people who are out there in front of the bases, sort of demonstrating, being quite aggressive with people. On the other hand, you have the ukrainian speaking people who are much more subdued. I think theyre worried about their loved ones in the military bases, theyre worried about the potential for violence. And therefore you have this dichotomy. At the same time, life is very normal. Today i was watching as cars were being stopped by police for driving too fast. Life on the streets of sevastopol and other towns seem to be normal. But theres this underlying tension about what comes next. Certainly the idea theres going to be a referendum on the 16th of march to determine the fate of crimea makes people more nervous. Jill, what stands out to you . Youve been in this region a long time. For awhile i thought like a couple days ago, i thought things were quieting down. Now frankly im pretty worried about this referendum thats going to be taking place. Because de facto, whether the Obama Administration or anybody else says that its not legal, theres going to be a vote and it appears that it could go for a vote to join russia. And if that happens, i think the potential for violence is very high. And is it if, if it becomes part of russia, what does russia do . Do the people, the soldiers, put their insignia back on . Do they send more troops in if it is part of russia . The implications are and what do the ukrainian troops on the ground in crimea do if crimea decides to join russia . Thats a good question. Many of them come from the mainland. So theyll just in theory go back home. But i dont think its going to be that simple. This is the breakup of a country. And weve seen a few of those happen. And theyre always messy. So its not just them, its the families. And of course, the other people, the tartars, the 40 of the population who are not russianspeaking. And i think its also important to keep in mind that the russianspeaking majority there are not uniform in their opinion. The real nationalist, russian nationalist parties didnt actually fare very well in the last elections in the crimea. So we dont know which way its going to go. But for everybody its a time of great uncertainty and worry. And jill, we dont have really time to speak about it but you and i were talking to professor Stephen Cohen earlier. He was saying that the west had forced ukraine to decide between russia and the west. Do you think thats true . I dont really think they forced. I think that europe offered a longterm deal. This is going back now seems like a long time ago. But europe was saying, come to us. Eventually you can become part of europe. We can help you. There will be cooperation. But they didnt offer money right up front. And so yanukovych, who was facing a reelection in a year, said, i need help. I cant have our economy bad and get reelected. And russia comes in and says, here, heres 15 billion. Well help you out. Its that type of thing. I dont think that it was a gigantic in the beginning come east, come west. It appeared to be. But i think it was much more gray area. Jill, appreciate you being here with us all week as well. Ben wedeman, great reporting as well from crimea. Up next the socalled blade runner breaks down. Oscar pistorius on trial. Well have the latest on that ahead. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods first day of work. And his new boss told him two things cook what you love, and save your money. Joe doesnt know it yet, but hell work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. 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Its got the brightest display, so i can see what im shooting even outdoors, and 4 mics that capture incredible sound. Plus, it has apps like vine and free cloud storage. My new lumia icon is so great, even our wipeouts look amazing. Honestly, i want to see you be brave welcome back. We are joining you from kiev tonight. Lets get caught up with some of the other stories were following from around the world. Susan hendricks has a 360 bulletin. Breaking news in tennessee. At least one person has been shot at a Shopping Mall in memphis. No word on the victims condition. Police say at least two suspects are in custody. On day four of his murder trial, Oscar Pistorius broke down during riveting testimony by the first person on the scene after he shot reeva steenkamp. The witness a doctor who lives near the athlete described steenkamps injuries in gruesome detail saying she appeared dead. He said pistorius was crying and praying for his girlfriend to live. An army general who is being courtmartialed for sex crimes today pleaded guilty to engaging in inappropriate relationships and several other charges but not the most serious. Brigadier general Jeffrey Sinclair still stands accused of sodomy, maltreatment of subordinates and defrauding the government. And a first look now from the tip of the tallest building in the western hemisphere. Time magazine got exclusive access inside the spire of 1 world trade center. It used more than 500 pictures to create an interactive image that spans 360 degrees. 12 years after the 9 11 attacks, the building is almost complete, and time describes what it took to build it in its upcoming cover story. Really fascinating, anderson. Wow, remarkable images. Susan, thanks very much. That does it for this this is piers morgan live tonight breaking news theyre talking with the world watching and waiting for something, anything to stop the crisis in ukraine. 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