Reparative or therapeutic in what they endure. I was manipulated into believing i could change my Sexual Orientation. Instead i was subjected to terrible abuse that mirrored the assault i experienced as a young person. What i can tell you is conversion therapy does not work. My family and i have wasted thousands of dollars and many hours on this scam. Thats heim levin, who filed suit against a new jersey Counseling Center called jonah, jews offering new alternatives for healing. These four men and the Southern Poverty Law Center which is representing them claim the center falsely offered cures and used tactics that sound less like therapy and more like mental torture. Things like being made to undergo individual and Group Sessions in the nude. Being made to cuddle other same sex clients and counselors. Being made to beat an effigy of ones mother. Go to gyms and bath houses in order to be nude, the lawsuit claims, with father figures. Being subject, the suit also claims, to ridicule, and im quoting the complaint here, as homos and other antigay slurs that start with the letter f but is too offensive to repeat here. Sounds a lot like bullying, doesnt it . Experts say it amounts to quack science. This from the American Psychiatric association. Im quoting now. In the last four decades, reparative therapists have not produced any Rigorous Scientific Research to substantiate their claims of cure. Until there is such research available, the apa recommends that ethical practitioners refrain from attempts to change individuals Sexual Orientation, keeping in mind the medical dictum to first do no harm. Stories of harm caused by reparative therapy are what prompted california to recently pass a law barring it for minors. As the apa warns, the harm can include anxiety, depression, even suicide. Randi kaye profiled another young man who went through socalled reparative therapy with traumatic results. Heres his story. Reporter when ryan was 13, his mother read his diary and discovered he was gay. That was the beginning of the most painful years of his life. For years, i thought that god hated me because i was gay. Reporter ryan says his parents were determined to change him. They signed him up for whats called reparative therapy with the National Association for research and therapy of homosexuality, otherwise known as n. A. R. T. H. The therapy, aimed at changing Sexual Orientation, has been used for decades as a way to turn potentially gay children straight. Every day i would hear this is a choice. This can be fixed. Reporter did you believe that . I never believed that. I know im gay just like i know im short and im half hispanic. I never thought those facts would change. Its part of my core fundamental identity. So the parallel would be sending me to tall camp and saying if you try really hard, one day you can be 61. Reporter ryan says he was treated by joseph nicolosi, a clinical psychologist who today is still associated with n. A. R. T. H. The constant refrain was the religious one, this is something that makes god cry, this is something your family doesnt want for you. Reporter at his office outside los angeles, we asked nicolosi if he remembered treating ryan kendall. Im not familiar with the name at all. Reporter his parents have provided bills from your office. There have been checks written to your office but no record. No. Reporter he says that your therapy was quite harmful. He said that you told him to butch up, quote, unquote. Never. Thats not our language. Reporter when somebody says people like yourself, others are trying to get the gay out of people. Thats a terrible way of phrasing it. I would rather say we are trying to bring out the heterosexuality in you. Reporter the doctor says hes kept hundreds of children from growing up gay. He credits this man, a researcher and big believer that homosexuality can be prevented. He worked as a doctoral student at ucla in the 70s. In a government funded Experimental Program later called sissy boy syndrome, he treated a boy named kirk murphy. To turn around kirks socalled sissy behavior, kirk was repeatedly asked to choose between traditionally masculine toys like plastic knives and guns or feminine ones like dolls and a play crib. If he chose the feminine items, kirks mother would be told to ignore him. Kirks siblings told anderson his outgoing personality changed as a result of the therapy. He had no idea how to relate to people. Its like Somebody Just walked up and turned his light switch off. Reporter george considered kirk a success story, writing his feminine behavior was gone, proof, he said, that homosexuality can be prevented. Kirks family says he was gay and never recovered from the attempts to turn him straight. In 2003, kirk took his own life. He hanged himself from a fan in his apartment. He was 38. Our producers tracked George Riekers down in florida. What do you say to the family . They say the therapy you did to him as a child led to the suicide as an adult. I would say scientifically that would be inaccurate to assume that it was the therapy, but i do grieve for the parents now that youve told me that news. I think thats very sad. Reporter according to the American Psychiatric association, the potential risk of reparative therapy is great, including depression, anxiety and selfdestructive behavior. The Association Says therapists alignment with societal prejudices against homosexuality may reinforce the selfhatred already felt by patients. Dr. Nicolosi says his therapy isnt harmful, and he only treats people who want to change. Not true, says ryan kendall. It led me to periods of homelessness, to drug abuse, to spending a decade of my life wanting to kill myself. It led to so much pain and struggle, and i want them to know that what they do hurts people. It hurts children. It has no basis in fact. And they need to stop. Reporter randi kaye, cnn, los angeles. Lets get back to the lawsuit against that new jersey counseling group, jonah. We should note we invited them on the program tonight but they declined. Joining us now, one of the plaintiffs, Michael Ferguson and christines son, deputy legal director of the Southern Poverty Law Center. Michael, let me start with you. Earlier, i mentioned some of the specific allegations in the lawsuit. They are incredibly troubling. Tell us what you saw, what you went through. Sure. There were a lot of very strange interventions that were purported to help change your orientation from homosexuality to heterosexuality. Among them were of the bizarre exercises that i participated in was i formed i was part of a group that formed a human barricade and on the other side of that barricade were a pair of oranges meant to represent another mans testicles, and there was a participant in the exercise who was supposed to break through that barricade and grab the oranges and was instructed to squeeze them and drink the juice from them and to shove them down his pants and all this was to symbolize that, you know, his homosexuality was related to his lack of masculinity or his lack of, you know, these metaphorical testicles and that reclaiming them would promote him toward heterosexuality. I know you want to get across that as disturbing, as sensational some of the specifics certainly are, its equally important to Pay Attention to the undercurrent of this socalled therapy, which is that there is something wrong with being gay. You point out theres a tremendous amount of harm that comes along with this. What did it do to you, to hear socalled therapists tell you needed to be cured or fixed . Sure. Well, theres definitely this insidious trauma that is inflicted on a person when the repeated message is theres something inside of you thats broken and if you try hard enough, you can fix it. So consequently, if youre trying and youre engaging in these practices and youre not experiencing change, then theres a tremendous amount of selfblame that befalls you. Personally, it did lead me to a lot of dark places as far as anxiety and depression and as the previous segment was indicating, thoughts of hurting myself. Fortunately i was able to connect to licensed therapists, legitimate therapists, who were able to help me with a lot of these issues and come to a place of better emotionality and of Psychological Health and wellbeing. Christine, this potentially is a landmark case. How likely is it that you will succeed, be able to put this group, perhaps other groups like it, out of business . Well, we feel very strongly that we will win because jonahs services are based on complete lies. This idea that people can change their Sexual Orientation by doing these absurd treatments like the one michael just explained is completely fraudulent on its face so we feel very confident we will succeed in this case. Michael, for viewers out there who might be considering this type of socalled therapy for parents who might be trying to get their children into a program like this, what do you want them to know tonight . Gosh. You know, one of the real tragedies as well is the parental abuse thats secondary here in the sense that the causal model asserts that parents are largely to blame for their child being gay, that because a mother did what she was supposed to do in nurturing and loving her child and being affectionate with her child, she somehow made him homosexual. Again, this isnt just that theres a lack of empirical data, its that every amount of empirical evidence we have points to the exact opposite conclusions, that placing blame for homosexuality in the first place, to say there is something to be blamed for, and secondarily, to place that causation on parents who are already feeling tremendous guilt for social reasons, for religious reasons, is frankly cruel. Christine, as i mentioned, we asked for a comment from this group, jonah, on the show. They said we didnt get any comment from them but how do you think they are going to defend their behavior in an open courtroom likely in front of news cameras . Its a lot different, different setting than what theyre obviously used to. Sure. Thats one of the points of our lawsuit. For way too long, conversion therapy has been operating in the shadows, and one of the things that were trying to accomplish with this lawsuit is to show to shed light on what the actual treatments are and so we look forward to having, through the legal process, a debate over whether there is any Science Behind conversion therapy. Again, we feel very confident that well show that conversion therapy is just a fraudulent and dangerous practice. Christine, michael, thanks to both of you for joining us. Thank you. Up next, we have some breaking news were working on on the libya consulate killings. New questions about the Obama Administrations story. Stay with us. [ male announcer ] alkaseltzer plus presents the cold truth. I have a cold. I took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesnt work on runny noses. What . [ male announcer ] it doesnt have an antihistamine. Really . [ male announcer ] really. 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It is clear that the information she gave the American People was incorrect when she said it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hateful video. It was not, and there was compelling evidence at the time that that was certainly not the case, including statements by libyans as well as other americans who are fully aware that people dont bring mortars and rocketpropelled grenades to spontaneous demonstrations. In a statement after the meeting, ambassador rice said that neither she nor anyone in the administration intended to mislead the American People. But the breaking news concerns the part in her sunday talk show statements that substituted the word extremists for al qaeda. Remember, the administration said she was working from edited talking points. The question is, who did the editing . Today, the senators say that acting director morel told them the fbi did. They say they later heard from the cia that he had quote, misspoken and the cia was, in fact, responsible. So whats going on here . Cnn intelligence correspondent Suzanne Kelly has been working her sources. Shes joining us now. Suzanne, you just got a statement from the cia. What are they saying . Reporter actually, ive gotten this statement from an intelligence official who told me it was in fact the cia that made the changes which is more or less what the Intelligence Community has been saying from the beginning, that this was a collaborative effort within the Intelligence Community to get their language straight and that the reasons they were doing it had to do with, as you know, classified sources. I can read you what the u. S. Intelligence official has just told me. There were literally just coming in on my phone. There were several valid intelligence and investigatory reasons why that was changed. The information linked to al qaeda was derived from classified sources and could not be corroborated at the unclassified level. It made sense to be cautious before naming the perpetrator. Thats kind of the reasoning behind it, wolf. It doesnt necessarily go far enough to explain why acting director morell perhaps misspoke is what it looked like this afternoon but that the cia had made efforts as you reported to clarify the record with the senators on the hill. A spokesman for the director of National Intelligence told cnn a week ago, suzanne, that it was the dni, in fact, who removed those references to al qaeda. Now today the story has changed not once, but twice. This is getting awkward. Reporter it is getting awkward. And difficult to manage. I think but i have definitely heard from intelligence sources who tell me the dni did not change those talking points, that this was a collaborative process and i think were starting to see now some of the mess thats created when all of these different agencies were affected by this, the fbi, the state department, the director of National Intelligence, the cia, that sometimes its even difficult for them to get these points straight. I think thats why youre seeing the senators get so frustrated but again, from the sources ive spoken to inside the Intelligence Community, the dni never changed those talking points, that the cia in fact made those changes and took out the references to al qaeda, because they said it would have compromised an Ongoing Investigation at that point. I just want to be precise because a week ago the spokesman from the dni said that the talking points had been edited to protect sources in the investigation. Now at least according to these senators, the cia cant say why those talking points were aulterred. Reporter again, from this source that i have been speaking with and what im reading to you off my phone right now is that there were reasons that the individuals linked to al qaeda, that was in fact derived from classified sources, so thats consistent. And that it could not be corroborated at the unclassified level. So thats the other issue with trying to tell the details very early on in this story. A lot of that information you get in the very early hours and days is classified, so theres a process that they have to go through in order to declassify that information and of course, also, it is an Ongoing Investigation. They are still trying to round people up at that point and the libyans, as you know, the Libyan Government rounded up quite a few suspects at that point. They now have people that theyre talking to. But the timing of this is whats so interesting, and how everything happened so quickly and people were demanding such specific answers early on that i dont think people really had to give them. Thats my opinion. Im surprised at todays meeting they apparently screwed up once again. Theyre trying to fix it right now. Suzanne, thanks very much. As we said, all this just broke a few moments ago. A short time before that, i spoke with one of the three senators in that meeting today, senator kelly ayotte. Senator, you say you are more troubled now after your hourlong meeting with ambassador rice and acting cia director mike morell. Why is that . The big concern that i have is there was an impression left and i certainly went into the meeting with this impression that the unclassified talking points, that is what she relied upon, and certainly thats in part what she said on each of the major networks, but as part of her duties as ambassador to the u. N. She also reviews the daily intelligence briefings, including the classified versions. Its already been reported, wolf, that the classified version of course said that individuals with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attacks. That was then removed from the unclassified version. So if you had reviewed those and then reviewed the classified, why would you want to go on and represent and leave out the al qaeda portion . And whats particularly of concern is that in the interview with face the nation and meet the press not only did that fact get omitted but also she said al qaeda had been decimated. So it really unfortunately left a misleading impression to the American People about what happened at the consulate in benghazi. The Intelligence Community analysts or whatever, they were suggesting they deleted the reference to al qaeda because they were afraid that could give a tipoff to al qaeda about some sources and methods and compromising the sources and methods. Thats why they took that line out about al qaeda from the declassified talking points. You dont buy that . I think its really troubling because it left a misimpression to the American People. Its very different when you tell someone that individuals with ties to al qaeda are involved in an attack and you omit that, and i just dont understand how who they were trying to protect with the reference to al qaeda. Were tipping al qaeda off . I think that al qaeda knows that we certainly have pursued them around the world and so i just this doesnt make any sense to me. Is it your opinion, assessment, senator, that ambassador rice deliberately on that sunday morning misled the American Public . Well, certainly she misled the American Public. I think that she would say that. She would have to say that because she began our meeting today admitting that representations about the video and the protests were wrong and the impression left with the American People was misleading. I dont know that i am in a position to question her motives but its deeply troubling to me that someone of that important position would go on every Major News Network knowing that she had obviously previously reviewed other classified reports that left a different impression with the omission of the important reference to al qaeda. And also saying on those shows that al qaeda had been decimated. Bottom line, senator, if the president nominates ambassador rice to be the next secretary of state or some other cabinet level position, do you intend to do whatever you can to block her nomination . Bottom line, where im left is im still digesting what she has told me today. I have deep concerns but when you and i have talked about this before, ill certainly hold the nomination until we get a full and complete picture of what happened here, and some of those questions have been answered today. But she has not been nominated yet. I will certainly listen to additional information, but im very concerned. So thats where im at but i havent prejudged it. Senator ayotte, thanks very much for joining us. Thank you very much. Coming up, raw politics. The fiscal cliff debate shifts to Campaign Style tactics. The president planning to hit the road to tout his tax plan. I will speak with lobbyist Grover Norquist and senator dick durbin about what hangs in the balance next. Mom . Dad . Guys . [ engine turns over ] [ engine revs ] hell be fine. [ male announcer ] more people are leaving bmw, mercedes and lexus for audi than ever before. Take advantage of exceptional values during the season of audi event. Hes going to apply testosterone to his underarm. Axiron, the only underarm treatment for low t, can restore testosterone levels back to normal in most men. Axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. Axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. 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It goes by too, too fast. But i would do it again in a heartbeat. [ laughs ] small town mayor in mexico stood up to some of the worst Gang Violence related to the drug war. She survived several assassination attempts and vowed to keep on fighting but now, her dead body has been found. Raw politics now. If you didnt get enough of campaign 2012, stay tuned. We learned today that the president will be hitting the road Campaign Style to push his plan to raise taxes on income above a quarter Million Dollars a year. Hell be speaking friday at a factory in pennsylvania. The House SpeakerJohn Boehners office today announcing something similar. Congressional Republicans Holding events in washington as well as back in their home districts to frame the president s tax plan as a threat to new hiring. But some republicans as you know are already hinting theyre open to eliminating deductions even if it means breaking that pledge that the lobbyist Grover Norquist has been getting law makers to sign for years. Joining us now to talk about it all, Grover Norquist, president of americans for tax reform. Grover, thanks very much for coming in. Good to be with you. The trend were seeing now from members of Congress Questioning or pushing back on the pledge. Weve seen it before to a certain degree, but were seeing a lot more of it i sense right now. Theres a sense this movement is gaining some steam. Is this just more of the same, in your opinion, is there Something Different going on right now . Does any of this surprise you . Well, so far, what weve seen is the same people who two years ago got in front of tv cameras and said lets make a deal when it was the simpsonbowles proposal, when it was the budget control act, because of the debt ceiling. Its the same collection of people with the same sort of statements. So i dont see any Movement Towards republicans wanting to raise taxes or people wanting to break their pledge. In fact, to be fair to everybody, some of these people have had impure thoughts. No one has pulled the trigger and voted for a tax increase. I know youve had some tough things to say about congressman peter king, for example. His comments about the pledge. But look specifically to his point. Some things do change over the years, the economic problems, for example, that we may have had 20 years ago, 40 years ago, theyre different than the economic problems right now. So dont different problems call for Different Solutions . Well, what was odd about peter kings comment was look, tax increases slow economic growth. Tax increases take resources out of the real economy and allow the government to grow and grow. Thats always a bad idea. Thats not a good idea some years and a bad idea others. Leeches, doctors dont put leeches on people ever, its wrong. Dont do it. It doesnt make people stronger. Raising taxes, taking money out of the economy, damages the economy, kills jobs, reduces opportunities. You know, the latest cnn polls that just came out this week say youre wrong. Two or three americans, including a majority of republicans, say the fiscal cliff should be addressed with a mix, a mix of spending cuts, yes, but also tax increases and if theres no deal according to these polls, theyre going to blame republicans more than they blame the president. All the best evidence right now suggests the public wants to see the republicans compromise on this tax question. So from a political standpoint, is it okay for lawmakers to ignore the pledge that they gave earlier . Well, the challenge is that the pledge that they made and that every two years comes up again in campaigns, this is not an ancient pledge, these are pledges that get discussed every election cycle, democrats in the last two cycles have attacked all the republicans who took the pledge. So they have been reinforced in the fact that voters know that they made that commitment and they got elected making that commitment to voters. I just want to be precise on what you consider to be a tax increase. We know an increase in the marginal tax rates, thats a tax increase. But what about capping deductions . From your standpoint of the pledge, would that be considered a violation of the pledge to cap deductions, as some republican lawmakers are now suggesting . This is not a trick question. The pledge says no raising rates, no broadening the base unless rates come down dollar for dollar. The pledge is only two sentences but they are very clear. One of the reasons why eliminating deductions and credits, obama wants a trillion plus dollars worth of tax increase that way, is that if you do that, youve just got a tax reform for decades to come, because how do you reduce marginal tax rates so we can become competitive in the world on the corporate and the individual side, if you have already given away to the appropriators and spenders all the deductions and credits. One final question, grover. It seems some liberals out there want to make this personal. More and more about you, about your role in encouraging these republicans by and large to support the pledge. Heres the question. Could the pledge, could your visibility holding lawmakers accountable on this, be more of a distraction maybe in the end wind up hurting the overall cause . Its a little bit bizarre that the leader of the democrats in the senate, harry reid, attacks me personally. The American People dont want their taxes raised. They have kind of signaled that in the most recent Senate Election where harry reids guy lost and the antitax candidate won in nevada. So the tax issue is a powerful issue. I understand it comes with the territory, that people attack me personally. It doesnt bother me. Im very comfortable in my own skin. If they want to waste their time personally attacking me, theyre free to do so. But taxes are too high. Spending is too high. This needs to be changed and i think the American People will make it clear as time unfolds that raising taxes is not where they want to go. Grover norquist, thanks very much for joining us. Thanks, wolf. Lets get another point of view right now. Joining us, dick durbin, assistant majority leader, the senator from illinois. Senator, thanks very much for coming in. We just heard from Grover Norquist, several republicans on capitol hill this week have said they would consider defying his pledge but for some of them, raising revenue just means getting rid of loopholes or capping some deductions, not raising tax rates or letting tax cuts expire. Is that good enough . Well, i can tell you the president has set a goal, 1. 6 trillion in revenue or taxes over the next ten years. Thats about 40 of the 4 trillion deficit goal that we have. Thats the same thing that simpsonbowles had, 40 revenue. So the only way you can reach that, incidentally, is to allow the rates to go up. Just this idea of were going to take a look at the tax code, change some credits and deductions, you cant come up with enough money. So any deal will have to include at least some hike in the tax rate. I dont think theres any other way to approach it. Thats why the president has taken this position. If were going to make sure, for example, that we spare families making 250,000 a year or less from any income tax increase, then this idea that were going to go into the tax code and find 1. 6 trillion over ten years becomes almost impossible. We need to protect those middle income families. You said today that congress should deal with the fiscal cliff crisis now, but tackle entitlements, the entitlement questions, later. Yesterday, senator Lamar Alexander said the only thing the president has to do to get an agreement from republicans now is in his words, propose a reasonable way, a reasonable way to control entitlement spending. So is this a catch 22 . Who bends here . I dont expect us to have entitlement reform before december 31st. This is too technical, too important. Lets do it right. But i do believe and i said it, any long term deficit reduction will require entitlement reform for one simple reason. Medicare untouched, unchanged, runs out of money in 12 years. 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Mexicos drug cartels proving yet again those brave enough to stand up against them all too often are the ones to pay the ultimate price. Maria was a small town mayor dealing with some of the worst Gang Violence. She survived several assassination attempts, including one that claimed the life of her husband. She posed for pictures showing off her scars and told residents she would keep fighting as long as god allows her. She lived to see the end of her term as mayor, but the cartels caught up with her earlier this month, kidnapping her in broad daylight as she drove her daughter to school. The last people to see her alive say she pled with her abductors to leave her daughter alone before willingly going with them. Her remains were found just last week. The danger never ended for her. She died nearly a year after leaving office. For other mayors along the border, they understand the risks of the job and that means becoming a very visible target. Gary tuchman traveled to jaurez, mexico and filed this report in 2010. Reporter the mayor hates the drug cartels that have turned his city into a dangerous and violent place. The city with the highest murder rate in the world. The cartels want him gone. Permanently. The threats are real. Theyre not just intimidating. Theyre real and i have to take it very seriously. Reporter mayor jose reyes feres was told two weeks ago if he didnt quit his job by today, he would be assassinated. For added emphasis, a bloody animal head came with the note. I know i have a lot of people that not only dont like me but would like to do something to me. Reporter thats why his driver carries an automatic rifle with him at all times. And in public like at this patriotic celebration, the mayor has elaborate security and hes not backing down. Not only does he continue to appear at public events, he talks a lot about how the bad guys have ruined his city. Translator juarez is a lover of peace and peace is what we are lacking. Reporter during his threeyear term, the mayor has fired hundreds of cops. He believed they were in bed with the narco traffickers. The citys police force is considered much less corrupt and that angers the cartels and has led to assassinations of police and several threats against the mayor. Including this very specific one involving the animal head. Mayor, how scared are you personally . Well, i take all the necessary precautions i can take. Reporter i asked the mayor if its safe to tour the city a bit. So we go theo a skateboard and bicycle park. Its not crowded but there are some kids having fun. Nevertheless, even in this environment, he doesnt go anywhere without an armed guard. Although here, the rifle is left in its case. Its hard to have a normal life. Its extremely difficult. I love playing tennis. He havent played in a couple years. I love going to the movies. I havent gone to the movies in a couple years. Reporter hes a family man, a lawyer by trade. The mayor could quit tomorrow and live a less stressful, financially lucrative life. As we travel in his armored vehicle, he says hes well aware a killer could target him at any time so i asked him about quitting. Do you have any thoughts about that possibility . No. I wont step down of my position. Its a very important position. What were doing is extremely important for our city. If we dont do it today, its going to be very hard to do it tomorrow. Its going to be double hard. Reporter the contrasts in his life are surreal. The lawabiding citizens want him to succeed. The cartels want him punished. They want him dead. Gary tuchman, cnn, juarez, mexico. Jose finished his term as mayor. Juarez has a oneterm limit. He now lives in washington, d. C. , where he is working as a Security Consultant to state and local governments in mexico. Our next guest also knows all too well what the drug cartels are capable of doing. Harris hoegland is a photojournalist, joining us live from tijuana in mexico. Recently, by the way, he was featured in the hbo documentary miniseries, witness. When people think of the drug wars, they think of major border cities like juarez, tijuana, but the brutal murders show that the drug war is much more farreaching right now. Whats going on . Well, thats exactly right, wolf. You have maria santos was abducted and murdered, and to the south you have guerrero, you see this extreme violence all over mexico now. You spent some time in the valley of juarez, where 20 bodies were found just over the weekend. So whats life like there for residents . Well, i was in the Juarez Valley earlier this year, where its basically a string of small pueblos about an hour southeast of the city of juarez. In 20092010, there had been basically a scorched Earth Campaign that forced probably most of the residents out. A few years later, im there and the fear was palpable. There were no police whatsoever. Basically there were few residents left. Military soldiers and the big black pickup trucks of the cartels foot soldiers. It was extremely tense. While the general mood in the city of juarez has gotten much better as the murder rates declined, these outlying communities are still petrified with fear because there is basically no law except for the law of organized crime. There are reports out as you know that violence has calmed in some parts of mexico since the height of the drug war a couple of years ago, but you make the point that even with the decrease, the death toll is still shockingly high. Explain. Definitely. Take juarez was a great example. 2010, there were probably about 3,000 some murders but now this year, there has been at least 750 documented murders. Thats no small number. Were talking probably twice the amount of murders that happened in philadelphia last year and thats one of the leading murder capitals of the united states. The numbers have definitely decreased but nothing is solved. Theres no peace still. Its a very serious situation. Yeah, i know that over the past six, seven years, more than 50,000, maybe 60,000 people have died, have been killed in this war on the drug cartels. Thanks very much for joining us. Youre very welcome. Up next, the affair that led to the resignation of the cia director, general David Petraeus. New insight on his exmistress, paula broadwell. And new photos as well. [ male announcer ] with 160 more miles per tank, the distances arent getting shorter. The trucks are going farther. The new 2013 ram 1500. With the bestinclass fuel economy. Engineered to move heaven and earth. Guts. Glory. Ram. A regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. The usual, bob . Not today. 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