killing of jihady john seen in the videos beheading americans and hostages? >> big deal. it's not confirmed. i think the cia wants to make sure we don't know what the sources and methods were of finding him, so they are reluctant to put out proof. but i don't think they would be advertising this if it weren't fairly certain. >> it's a big deal because he killed americans and could kill more. so stopping him personally matters, but it sends a signal we're out looking for these guys. >> there were plenty of others out there, rick, beyond jihady john. he spoke english well and had a flare, but there are a lot of others who could come in and fill that gap. >> he was the face of isis. he was that brutal face we saw