counternarrative online that the u.s. has a long way to go with countering the isis narrative. i want to ask you before we go we've talked about this paul, the fact that ramadan is still ongoing. we still have ten days until the end of ramadan. there was so much talk about the fourth of july threat but that threat is far from over. >> that's right and isis have called for a surge in terrorism, including in the united states during ramadan, the spokesmen issued a fatwa saying their followers would receive ten times an award in the afterlife. so there's a lot of concern in these last 10 11 days that you could have an attack. in fact as you reach the final stages of ramadan, these jihadis believe the rewards can go up exponentially for carrying out an operation, especially they carry out an attack on the so-called night of power, the night koran was revealed to the prophet mohammed.