so he has gorgeous glasses now. >> so i know you said you dealt with physical and emotional challenges both during and after the pregnancy. and what i wonder is does creating a song, does telling your truth help you -- >> help? >> -- deal with that? in a sense, is writing about things that you feel a form of therapy? >> yeah. and i don't -- i don't always go in going i'm going to write about, like, this today. but i noticed the first few songs were kind of heartbreaking. they were sad at first. i'm happiest i've ever been. my first songs were about being a mom and about like don't i make this look easy? i'm exhausted. i'm a working mom when i have mom guilt and i try to make them relatable and put them in every song. >> so 2014 you moved to nashville, you're there, you think, to write songs for other people and you meet a record producer named kevin kadish and