which is one of the big things they're going to have to deal with. perhaps the austrian archbishop, brianna, he's taken a top line on this. but there are about ten different cardinals, argentine in a, brazil, peter turkson from africa, from ghana, so it's a wide open field. it's interesting because you need a super majority, 2/3. 77 votes. so it's going to be someone who is a compromise candidate probably. someone who appeals to various different sections of the cardinals, not someone who is an outright favorite. i think someone who's a compromise candidate. that leaves it wide open. >> they certainly have their work cut out for them as this abuse case is raising questions at the vatican. dan rivers for us in rome. thank you for that. former south african