i want the president to solve this. i'm not trying to set him up. i think his aides have il-served him. it was an unusual conversation. he had a yellow pad in his lap, and he took me through a bunch of leading questions like do you remember the conversation with had by paying these guys off and i told him that at a point where i was just joking. >> nixon got up at one point and went over to the corner of his office which struck me as odd and then he asked me a question. i spokes to colson about clemency for howard hunt. that could have been obstruction of justice, is that right? they were unlike the normal conversations i've had with him, and i thought at that moment, well, maybe he's recordings.