like that democracy message actually does work. is it the entire message? no. but it is something that helps them in 2022, when i was in michigan talking to a number of democratic voters, and also middle of the road voters, they did bring up democracy. now they may not view in the same way that the trump supporters do, but that was something you could hear in addition to abortion as motivating for the democrats. >> those are different electorates. but i could see why they would take -- >> i was going to say, we are almost assuming a speech by biden about january 6th will necessarily slam donald trump explicitly by name, and there is maybe a needle to thread there where he can be both. >> so i fully believe the 2024 election is not going to be about left or right, it is going to be about stability versus chaos. that is a contrast that played very well for joe biden in 2020, you can see that nikki haley used this as a contrast in this election, because she is trying to say i'm stability, trump is chaos. the problem is, right now,