Story about who he checked first at the scene, supposedly . The first time i remember he checked maggie first and then went depaul to paul and then i heard him say one point that it was paul and it was. Maggie they Cell Phone Forensics Effort also testified for the defense. He analyzed the states data and timeline from the night of the murders. One key finding from him . Maggie murdaughs phone did not appear to be motion activated around the time the state has suggested that Alex Murdaugh may have tossed it from his moving car. Can you tell us how much motion would be required for the screen to come on on the phone . Its very little. And the times that Alex Murdaugh was passing this free never came on. Thats correct. The database indicated it was off. Randi kaye, that witness who was a friend of murdaugh, as he did not seem to do any favors for alec murdaugh. Correct me if im wrong, he said that murdaugh changed his story multiple times when the stories that he told his friend and that it was more dawes voice on that video . That is crucial. It was really interesting to watch is sort of unravel because the defense brought him in as the defense witness. And then he started to talk about the sloppy murder scene. As you, heard the piece of skull that was found in the feed room and then all these other points that he made, these changing stories from Alex Murdaugh to his friend of more than 35 years, and. Isnt so, he really, in the end, looked more like a state witness, a prosecution witness, then a defense witness. Thats incredible. Randi kaye, appreciated. Cnn town hall toxic trains, after a high residents peek out, hosted by jake tapper, starts now. A fiery train crash in rural ohio has left a town on edge, fearing for their health and their livelihoods. We need our residents to feel safe in their homes. Tonight, the residents of East Palestine question the people in power. Ohio Governor Mike Dewine all we can do is give people the facts as we test. We will tell people exactly what we find. Norfolk southern ceo alan shaw. We are going to be here today, we are going to be here tomorrow, and we are going to be here five years from now. And epa chief michael regan. We are not going to leave this community behind. Its the first televised town hall where residents share their stories. All i know, hes our town each help. They played for help and demand the truth. Good evening, and welcome to our Special Cnn Town Hall on the otono toxic Train Disaster. Tonight we are going to facilitate a muchneeded conversation between a community demanding accountability and the leaders charged with keeping them safe. In studio with me here are some of the residents of East Palestine, ohio, and they are joined by their neighbors from their hometown, which sits alongside the ohio pennsylvania border. These men and women have spent the last 19 days frightened and frustrated after a Train Derailments and hazardous chemicals into their air, into their soil, into their water. They have been told that its safe to breathe the air and drink the water but they have seen thousands of dead fish in local creeks. And many of them have felt and continue to feel ill. Tonight, for the First Time Since that disaster, residents are going to have a chance to directly question the ceo of Norfolk Southern, the Train Company at the center of all this, and the epa administrator, michael regan, and their governor, mike dewine. Some of the questions we have been hearing since we have been covering this story how could this happen . Is the air safe to breathe . Is the water safe to drink . Can the testing be trusted . We are going to let members of the Community Ask their questions in a moment. But first, lets bring in cnns jason carroll, also in East Palestine, ohio, to bring us up to speed. Jason . Jake, today, residents here and East Palestine got a visit from former president donald trump. Tomorrow, transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg will get his chance to do the same. Meanwhile, ohios governor says that going forward, ohios epa will independently test the municipal water that will be done out of an abundance of caution. That will be done once a week. Officials continue to say that the air and water is safe. But residents here on the ground have not believe that from the very beginning. Friday, february 3rd flames of burning rail cars light up the night sky and East Palestine, ohio. A Norfolk Southern Freight Train with 100 cars is partially derailed, including nearly a dozen cars full of hazardous materials, including vinyl chloride, a cancer causing chemical. Theres two Evacuation Stations open. Residents evacuate as the blaze rages through the weekend. Firefighters are unable to get close due to the toxic chemicals and the possibility of an explosion. We had to weigh different risks with no great choices. Monday, february 6th, the decision is made to conduct a controlled release. This allows us to control that operation and not have the car react and do it itself. A large black plume can be seen for miles. The detonation went perfect and we are already to the point where the cars became safe. But residents are left wondering when it is safe to go home. We are all trying to get home, basically. But its kind of you cant get direct answers because nobody knows. Epa testing shows air and municipal Drinking Water did not have Dangerous Levels of contaminants. The Evacuation Orders lifted. And the railroad is reopened. But when they return, some residents complain of headaches, rashes and nausea. Watch this. You see that chemical pop out of the creek. This is disgusting. Thousands of dead fish floating in local creeks like this one, behind kathy reeses home. Air wise, i feel okay. Water wise . No. No. Theres just too many chemicals and stuff that works bill that they still dont want to identify completely. Officials say daily tests continue to show the air and municipal Drinking Water are safe. But residents have little trust in them. My kids say, where the people say, is the future of this Community Safe . Anxious residents demand answers. So far they have worked with us and they are fixing it. When that stops, i will guarantee you, i will be the first one to fight that. The apa order Norfolk Southern to complete all of the cleanup or the agency will immediately take over the cleanup and seek to compel the company to pay triple the cost. In no way shape, or form, will Norfolk Southern got off the hook for the mess that they created. The governor of Neighboring Pennsylvania announced his state made a criminal referral to investigate the rail company. Norfolk southerns corporate greed and incompetence and lack of care for our residents is absolutely unacceptable. And Norfolk Southern continues to vow to do what is right. We are going to continue to see this through and we are going to invest in this community and we are going to do it in the right way and we are going to do it at the right time. On tuesday, Public Officials visiting homes, and drinking from the tap to try and show the municipal water is safe. Yet, what remains is it deep level of mistrust and lingering questions about who will be around two years from now to make sure that no one has gotten sick. We will go through this process with the citizens of East Palestine for as long as it takes. We will stay here. We will continue to test. We will continue to do what needs to be done. Jason carroll, cnn, East Palestine, ohio. Our thanks to jason carroll. I appreciate. It i want to get to the East Palestine residents who are here tonight. Theyre joining us to answer their questions. Theres ohios republican Governor Mike Dewine, along with the state health director, bruce vanderhoof, and the head of the ohio epa and vogel. Ann vogel. Just a show of hands, raise your hand if you do not feel safe right now living in East Palestine, if you do not feel safe living in East Palestine, raise your hand. Okay. So, thats about four here and five in East Palestine. Let me start with you, jessica connor. You are a mother to three boys. You are a lifelong East Palestine resident. Tell Governor Mike Dewine why you dont feel safe. Thank you for being here, governor dewine and thank you jake for the question. I think i dont feel safe because i dont know what the future holds for my town. This has the potential to really decimate a small town like us. And we just bought our forever home last year. And i want to stay. My family is here and whether alive or buried my ancestors helped build this town. I live on a road that was named after my ancestors. And i want to know that it is safe to continue to live here and that people are going to want to come into our town to live as well. I just want to feel safe in my town again. And i dont feel safe right now. Governor mike dewine . Look, i fully understand well, i cant say i fully understand what you are going through. Because i did not have that trauma inflicted upon me. Its absolutely no fault of anybody in the village. It was two times the train wreck and then the controlled release. So, i understand that you are very, very concerned about what the future is. What we are trying to do is to continue to give you the best information that we can. And i can tell you that the best people that we can find are in there. These are experts. I dont ask you to take mike dewines word for. Im not an expert. But we brought in the best people that we literally can find. And we are testing the water. We are going to continue to test the air. As you know, we have got 20 monitors around town. We have gone into anybody who has asked us to go into their house. We have done that. And what those tests are showing is that the air is good. We were very careful in what we said about your municipal water, your village water. The experts said, we think its going to be good. We dont think its going to be a problem. But we all agreed we need to test it. So, we did in fact test it. We waited until we got the results back before we told anyone it was okay to drink the water. But we also know that there is going to be continuing concern about that. I dont blame you. I dont blame you at all. So, we are going to test that water every single week. We are going to continue to do it. I think the key and the mayor has said this to me and some residents have said this to me. Its a real concern that we are going to go away. When the tv cameras go away and the reporters go away, i think there is a concern that you are going to be left on your own. And my commitment to you is, thats not going to be true. We are going to hang in there. We are going to stay in their. We are going to do what needs to be done. I think your community is a great community. The people are resilient. They are strong. We are going to do everything we can so that you have a great future and your children have a great future. I appreciate that answer. I think my question more is, what about for those of us with private wells . Well appreciate the testing thats been done in town, ive several Family Members that have live outside that one mile zone. I personally have a private ouellet has not been tested. And we are on the list. We did call. We were assured that we would get scheduled. While we do live upstream an up wind, i do have family that does not. Thats family and more south of East Palestine. What can you tell people about testing their wells and the reassurances that you can provide for them . We are going to test those wells. Im sorry youre well has not been tested yet. But we are going to test it. Anybody that wants their well tested, we are going to test that well. Its a matter of your safety. But its also a matter of your peace of mind. So, we are going to do it. Someone else that raised their hand that they dont feel safe, 90 nieny did you raise your hand . Yeah. The experts are saying everything is okay. And yet, people having physical responses, the reactions. Thats my concern, is the water. Since i got home from evacuating, i still end up using the water, because i never know if its true, they are telling the truth or it is lie . I dont know. It sounds like theyre lying or i didnt understand . Thats why i never use the water until now i never. I use bottle water. I cant im not trusting what they are saying. So, i dont know who is telling the truth. So what do you say to that, Governor Mike Dewine . Because obviously, there are a lot of people throughout the history of the United States who have been told that things are okay and then they find out a year or two or three later that they werent. Yeah. We have been very careful not to tell anybody its okay until we have evidence that it is okay. The village water, we told people, dont drink it. We think its okay. But we are not going to know until we test that. If you have your own individual well, we have told, you dont drink it yet. Dont drink it until we not only have tested it but until we get results back. And look, there is still cleanup to do. Theres still many things to do. So, youre not telling you everything is perfect. No one can tell you that. Okay. But as we go through and do one thing at a time, and approach this in a methodical way, we are going to tell you when things are clear. Look, theres been a lot of noise on tv about when a senator went in and stuck a stick in the water. Look, we knew that what was bad. That water is not good. No one should be getting in that water or touching that water. And we are going to continue to monitor the different streams and the different creeks until they are safe. We are going to tell you that they are not safe. So, its not rosy. We are not saying everything is good. But there are hundreds of people in your community who have come in from other places where the experts. Im not an expert. But i listen to what the experts say and we try to get absolutely the best experts were. They are ill killed within that first 24 hours. We are not aware, the Ohio Department of natural departments as it up tells me they have no evidence there has been any fish killed. Beyond that first initial release that took place. So we are going to continue to monitor the water, the streams, the different creeks and continue to tell people what the results that we have. Lets go to my colleague sarah sidner, who is with our other East Palestine resident. Sarah . Jake, yes, we are here with a group of people who live here, are from here, and have been dealing with this and worrying about this. Not only for themselves but their children as well. Let me first start with corey newman. Courtney, you have a we are East Palestine shirt on. I am assuming one of those reasons is not only you are a mom but an Elementary School teacher. Correct . I am an r b t, a registered behavior technician. So you are in the schools. Courtney, can you give me an idea of what your family has gone through . And in particular, i hear that your son is having some medical issues after this. Yes, so i live a street over from the derailment. We are evacuated, stayed in in since weve been come home, my son has that bloody noses every day. I have had some skin issues. It has been overwhelming. Staying in a hotel for a week, coming home, trying to clean my house, and then go back to work on monday when school opened. And you have never seen this from your son or no. Having rashes . No. I am having the skin issues, is is bloody noses. He had another one today. I took him to the pediatrician on friday. I was told they had no guidance from the cdc, the Health Department, there was nothing they could do. I asked if they could do blood work and they said no. They said no . They said no. So, he says, i dont know what to tell you, we are in the dark as much as you are. Okay. But testing is often the first thing that you would do to try to come Out Of The Dark . Right. So im sure that needs to be addressed. I want to then, and thank you so much for sharing your story. And i am sorry to hear about your son. Thank you. That is so concerning. Josh hickman, who is sitting just here in the middle behind you. You are a long time East Palestine resident. And you have been living in a hotel with your family similar to what we just heard from courtney. Can you tell me what issues that you have been experiencing since this accident and explosion . Yes. Actually, i was in the yard just yesterday. I had to come back into town. I am still in a hotel, i havent returned home yet. It is not been deemed safe. And i have been staying in a hotel. And i have had to come back into town for just a few different things. And even since the night of the derailment, i have had the symptoms, sore throat, irritated nose, the headaches. I have been dizzy. I have also, you know, what sparked me to even go to the e. R. Was just an exacerbation of those same symptoms. And the bloody, knows, like when i blew my nose, the amount of blood that came out was alarming. And so i was here yesterday. That is terrifying to hear. That it is large amounts of blood. Are you seeing the same thing, courtney . My sons was pretty that, and then one of my coworkers ended up having a bloody nose yesterday at work as well. Wow. I want to get, because of these two things that are very similar. And we are going to get to you all, i promise. But i want to take the information you just gave to us, and to our audience to our doctor. Doctor bender off is standing by, we have heard a few things. One thing, extremely bloody noses. Like, an excess of blood. So much so that an adult goes to the e. R. And a childs, his mother is very very concerned. Nausea, headaches, dizziness. What can you tell me because we are hearing from courtney that the doctors say, well, we are not going to test for it. So what can you tell them . What is it that you can say to them . What do they need to do . And what should they be concerned about . Well, thank you for that question. Let me say that our concern from the very start has been on the health and safety of the residents of East Palestine. And we know that this has been a terrible trauma for that community. And for anyone who is having medical concerns and feels for whatever reason that they are not able to get the kind of evaluation that they think would be appropriate, we have a number of resources to make available. First, we do understand that dealing with these kind of potential environmental exposures or toxic exposures may not be in the real house of many physicians. Especially many in primary care. We have health for them. We can connect them with toxicologists, people who are experts in this field. And i would encourage you to let your physician know, and we are working to let them know as well, that they can call the Columbia County Health Department. They will work with the High Department of health. And we will get them directly in touch with Trained Medical toxicologists who can help them think through, what some potential testing and evaluation might look like. For others, they may be seeking care. Because they dont have a primary care physician, or they just need the support or evaluation of another physician. For that we have stood up and a clinic and assessment clinic in East Palestine. We have scheduling phone number that we have publicized and again, if you need to get that you can call the Columbia County Health Department tomorrow. And we will get you scheduled in there to see a doctor for evaluation. And if needed, if you dont have a primary care home, to get you a primary care home. Get you a established with a physician who can then follow your care. Or, work with your physician to establish a plan of evaluation and care. Doctor vanderhoof, thank you for that. I do want to give you all a chance to ask a question if you have one for the doctor. This is a really good time for you to be able to just say what you need to say and try to get some answers. Is there anyone that has a question for Doctor Vanderhoof, who said that basically, to call the Columbiana County Health Department. To get the numbers, to get a toxicologist if you need one. You are having those issues with getting tests for your son. And it sounds like you really, you are going to need this . Right, right. Yes, i was hoping just to get the baseline blood tests like they are doing for the First Responders and stuff. And he said it wouldnt show anything. And that is through childrens, our pediatrician. What it show anything, Doctor Vanderhoof . So thats a very very good question. The kinds of chemicals that are involved here do not stay in the blood very long in and out extremely quickly. So it is true that if we were to test blood if we were to test a persons blood now after potential exposure days ago, you almost certainly would not find those chemicals in the blood. However every case is unique in terms of the symptoms people are, having the situation in my being countering. There may be a reason to test for other substances or establish a baseline of certain values from blood work. And others have circumstances, blood work might not be the best option, and there might be other testing or even careful observation. But in any circumstance where you have concerns about your health, we want to help you get to a physician who can help you with that evaluation. And help you feel a sense of confidence and comfort that there is a medical provider working with you on this. Doctor vanderhoof, similar to lead which you cant find in the blood after sometime often. Can people still be sick if their blood is tested and it doesnt show up . Can they still have symptoms from these chemicals . Well, you know, here is what i am able to say factually as a. As of right now. When we have extensively evaluated the two mechanisms through which these two chemicals are most likely to be taken into a persons body in that community, through the air, because they are very volatile, and they get into the air very quickly and easily. Or through contaminated Water Sources that they would drink. The fact that the testing of those sources has really given the all clear is reassuring. It really suggests that there really is not an identifiable ongoing source. Now, having said that, every case, as i noted, is unique and individual and it deserves careful scrutiny. Including a thorough examination, a thorough history, and a discussion and evaluation that could include one of either our state or national toxicologists. And as i said, we can help your doctor make that connection. Or, you can schedule an appointment in our clinic. Which is available in East Palestine. Thank you so much, dr. Hander off. And i want to toss it back to jake. 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Still with us, residents of the affected community along with ohio Governor Mike Dewine and vogel who is head of the ohio epa. Andrew spinoff, the state health director. During the break i asked you all how many of you have had Health Issues since this incident, four of the six of you raise your hand. Ben, what was the issue you had . Thursday last week, i went down there with a news crew, they said the area is contained and cleaned. A train came through and immediately the smell of paint, their acetone, and then the three of us, even the, you know, the people from the that were there. Eyes were burning, noses running, i had a headache the last about eight or nine hours. And later that night, i had really bad projectile vomiting. Project of omitting. Liked tell us about the story from it on your way. Here on my way here, the tsa saw that i was from East Palestine, she was, like i live in East Palestine on east clark street. And this is her covered in hives. Said she was at the hospital earlier this week. And she was probably going to leave work later today. And even if it is 100 percent not from the Train Derailment, how are people supposed to have any sort of confidence in that . Just every time someone is sick, that nagging idea, is it something related to this Train Accident . You know . You have a question for governor to one. Yes, going with, that to give people more solid competence, could you use more definitive statements in your answers. Modal words in every statement makes for too much wiggle room. And leads to an easy citizens having more no confidence in the information given. Whenever things are said like maybe, potentially, might be, this is a really serious issue. And where its like that should have no part in this . Well, i apologize, look, ive been trying to tell people exactly what we know. I think i have been pretty strong in that we are not leaving. We are staying. We had the best experts, we are going to listen to the experts. Would you live in East Palestine . Pardon me . Would you stay hes asking if you would stay in East Palestine. Yes, yes. Until the collapsed, and youll stay with us . Within the one mile . Yes. I have been there three times. For a few hours, when you stay overnight for a period of time . Yes. Okay, hopefully we hold you to that. Yeah, i will stay overnight. Look, i have tried to be as honest and straight as i can. We told you when we had tested the water. What about the soil . We post the results of that. What about the soil, there hasnt been soil testing. Soil, there has been a massive amount of soil removed, they are not even, to my knowledge, halfway done. They said 8. 2 metric tons a needed to that is 208, 48 cubic yard trailers. There is no way 240 yard trailers have been moved out of their. No way. Numbers are not adding up. Okay, well let me ask and fogle, who heads up the ohio epa about that. She is the one that knows about that. Lets bring an end ago. Hi, governor, hello. Yeah, i, jake. The 5800 cubic yards of soil, that is on storage onsite, you are absolutely right. It has not been moved off. The process is to execute everything between i was contaminated and then we tested to see how contaminated it is. And where it needs to be lawfully disposed . It will go offsite to storage as soon as we know what is in that soil . So still onsite . That is the process underway right now. Yes, it is. So governor dewine, i think one of the things you are hearing here it is a public that does not always feel, and not necessarily through any fault of yours, sir. But a public that does not always feel like its government always tells us the truth. Which is not even necessarily your fault, but perhaps the fault of people who are telling you information and giving you rosy scenarios. And im thinking right now about the First Responders after 9 11. I am thinking about flint, michigan, during the water crisis there. Things you had nothing to do with. But people are wary and skeptical of what leaders tell them. Democrats, republicans, independents. And i am wondering how you cut through that as a leader. The challenge there. How do you get the people of East Palestine to believe you . Well, i guess that is a great question. Look, i understand peoples skepticism. I understand the confusion. I understand that, you, know they dont believe everything they are told. But as a leader, look. I have done this for a long time. I have been your governor for a long time. I have been in government for a long time. And one thing i am as a straight shooter. I tell people, you know, what the facts are, if we know what the facts are. And we try to tell them the best information. Sometimes we dont know all of the information. Sometimes we get facts that maybe are wrong. But there is no way in the world im going to convey to you or any other citizen a fact that i think is wrong. And i am telling you it is. Right i am not going to do that. I am going to tell you what i know when i know it. And im going to continue to do that. And i think, you know, you judge someone by their whole record. And that is why i say, look, it is not so much what we are doing now, less importance what we are doing now. The real question is, you know, is your government and the people that represent to you, are we going to be there for you in six months . In two years . In three years . In four years . I think i have a record of showing that i do that. But, you know, i understand the skepticism, all i can say is that i can try to continue to do that to tell you what i know and tell you what i dont know. Also with me is d. J. Oakley, he is the founder and ceo of a local sports broadcaster. Good morning he and his wife foster kids, dj, you have a question for the governor. I do, its great to hear that you will be here in four or six years. As a business owner, we want to know if we were to be here in for six years. There is so many businesses that were negatively affected from this derailment. What is your game plan, and how are you going to coach us through getting back on our feet after we already danced through covid and doing it without having to take out loans that we have nothing to do with this Train Derailment . Its interesting, the talk about small business. I got a call yesterday. From the president. He was in poland. And, you know, we talked about that very issue. If there was something that we could do to assist small businesses, that we know are hurting. And East Palestine. I am not sure what we can do but we are certainly going to look at that and see if theres anything certainly that we can do. I know it is a tough one, i know it is a tough time. I think probably the most important thing we can do is to get the cleanup done as fast as we can. And people start having more confidence. I think overtime, when we continue to do these things, community will have more confidence. I think other people will have more confidence. In regards to the community as well. So obviously it is not easy. Obviously, we understand, its not gonna happen overnight, our businesses were not built overnight. But they were affected overnight, sir. And i think the biggest thing is there is a lot of people in the town, Business Owners as well that need to either kind of get back in the game or get out of town. I would love to stay in my town but obviously we need to be able to be open at full capacity . I understand, sir. I understand. Lets go to sara sidner and East Palestine. Yeah we are and East Palestine, just to be, clear we have folks that have taken time out of their busy schedules and theyre Sleeping Patterns to be with us. They are suffering, they are dealing with a lot of different things, whether it be physical things or things to do with the economy. And i am going to be talking to a couple of folks here. But first i want to go to brandi kaye. He is an attorney, you grew up here in East Palestine. You have family here still. And you are looking at the possibility of putting together a lawsuit from what is happening. You want to Say Something i think to the governor, what is that you wanted to say . Absolutely, first off thank you for giving me this opportunity, sarah, jake. Myself and my legal team at motley race are honored with the opportunity. I will say that we did File Paperwork this afternoon against Norfolk Southern for two class actions. Now, governor, you keep saying that everything is safe. If it is safe, then how do you explain you virtual masses of people going to the medical facility that are not being helped . You have people with diarrhea. Digestive problems, puking, sore throats. Extreme migraines that last forever. How do you explain this . But for the fact that this accident happened, the wouldnt have these symptoms. They dont have them before, but they do now. Thank you. I never said everything is safe. What we have told you is we have tested the water. It goes through the village. It is safe. That is what the experts tell us. They have tested, we will continue to tested every week. We have told you we are checking the air. That look, i dont, i take everyone at face value. If you tell me that you have a problem, you know, talking about some of you have been talking about your children. Look, there is nothing worse in the world than to see your childrens offer or to see something wrong with your children. There is just nothing worse. So i feel for you, i dont disregard that. I dont say that you are making that up. We set up this clinic with the very purpose to try to get the best experts in. And, you know, we set it up the first day, and it wasnt so out of quite right. So i told my team, go back and make sure that we are examining people. And that we, are you, know we have doctors that are doing that. We have doctors theyre tied in to the experts. So i cant explain these things. I am not telling you everything is safe, i am not telling you that the medical problems that people are encountering are not real. All i can tell you is what we know. We know that that air is safe now. We know that the water is safe. As far as to drink. We know the creeks are not safe, some of them. We are continuing to test them. So we are going to continue to tell you what we know as we know it. But we are not minimizing anybodys medical problems. In fact, we are trying to help with those medical problems. Governor, i just want to follow up quickly with and vogel to see if you can address what you just heard there. That there are lots of people that are going to the hospital. That wouldnt be, and wouldnt be feeling this way. How does not been for this accident. And are concerned that it isnt still safe. Hi, thank you for the question, i am not a doctor, i dont want to address the medical issues. But i do want to address and follow up on what the government just said. I just want to reassure people that not just we are going to stay here but the ohio epa is here, we live here. Here, we live here. Here, we live here. The Northeast District office, this is our day job. I have a team of Recovery Experts that go around the state of ohio, a cleanup spills, so they must have just not everything okay. We are going to work, we are going to do everything in our case we canon our power to restore East Palestine to the condition that it was before this accident. So, as the governor laid out, we have been testing municipal water, we will continue to test it. My team was out yesterday testing the East Palestine useful water. We will be doing that on a weekly basis. We have a plan in place, we have got new wells that we have dug just for example to make sure that we have Early Warning should the water be contaminated in the future. So please understand that plans are already underway for the future as we have laid out. There is this immediate Emergency Response phase, and then there is the remediation phase. We are starting to enter that long term remediation face. We are working with the u. S. Epa, we are working to come up with plans for the soil, for the water, for the air. For the long run, so i want to just echo what the government said. And please, work with, us continue to express your concerns. And i want you to know that i am in East Palestine, ive been here for two and a half weeks. It is lovely. So i want to thank the team for being so gracious to me and the ohio epa. Thank you. Thank you, and, we are going to come back to our panel they have a lot more questions about tossup right thank governor dewine and his administration for coming and facing the good people of East Palestine coming up next, they are the ones that are gonna toxic changes last, or pay for all of, it we are gonna talk to him next. Plus, this committee will get the chance to question the ceo of Norfolk Southern. The Train Company. Stay with us. Science proves quality sleep is vital to your mental, emotional, and physical health. And we know 80 of couples sleep too hot or too cold. Introducing the new sleep number climate360 smart bed. The only smart bed in the world that actively cools, warms, and effortlessly responds to both of you. Our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night. Proven quality sleep. Only from sleep number. All across the country, people are working hard to build a better future. So were hard at work helping them achieve financial freedom. 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The move follows three weeks of angry pleas from residents of East Palestine that the company, the agency, and the president of the United States are simply not doing enough. Joining us, now the administrator of the Environmental Protection agency, michael regan. Administrator regan, thank you so much for joining us. My first question, you just issued another order to, quote, ensure the Norfolk Southern pace for the mess that they have created. Ohio senator sharon brown says this recovery effort couldnt costing Norfolk Southern hundreds of millions of dollars. Do you think that estimate is right . And how are you going to make sure that Norfolk Southern follows through on its promises . Well, thank you for having me, jake. And the cost that Norfolk Southern has to, you know, absorb, doesnt matter. They are going to fully pay for all of the cleanup. And they are going to do it in a very prescribed. Manner, listen epa has special authority. For 30 creations just like this. Where we can compel companies who inflict trauma and cause environmental and Health Damage to communities like Norfolk Southern is done to completely clean up the mess that they have caused and pay for. So what they will do is they will provide to us a very prescriptive work plan on how they plan to clean the soil, the water, and the debris up. And a very prescribed manner on a specific timeframe. They will also reimburse the epa for providing all of the residents of East Palestine a cleaning service. Interior and exterior to homes and businesses. And we will compel Norfolk Southern to show up at epas request to Public Meetings and explain and talk to the residents about what they are doing during this process. And listen, if Norfolk Southern decides that they dont want to follow the order, epa will step in, so that there is no breakin service. Perform these duties while finding the company up to 70,000 a day. And they will recoup our costs on the back and. The law gives us the authority to charge Norfolk Southern up to three times the amount that the cleanup would cost us. So there are a lot of incentives built in here in this order to compel the company to clean up thermos. I want to bring back dj yoke lee from East Palestine, he is having kids at home like many of us with us tonight. Do you have a question for this administrator . Yes, mr. Reagan, we spent some time obviously yesterday today together. Appreciate that, im really excited to hear that you have kids too. So i guess my question is, if you were in our shoes, would you feel 100 safe based on everything that you have heard long term and short term to raise your kids in our community . Thank you for the question, and is good to see you again, and thank you for hosting meaning yesterday. You know, my wife asked me that question every single day for the past week. About the children and the families in your community. And yes, i would based on the evidence that we have, listen, we have used aerial high tech capabilities in an airplane that is doing Air Quality Monitoring of the community. We have a mobile van that is moving in another the community. We have replaced Air Quality Monitors strategically all around the community. And we have been in over 550 homes testing the indoor air quality. What the science tells us is that we havent had any readings that are above certain levels that would cause Adverse Health impacts. And, you know, we have been supporting the state. The state has a very prescriptive methodology to test the war. And so the state, if the state is given a greenlight to the mist of water. And if the state has tested certain private wells and given that greenlight, and we believe that the science says that that water is safe. I understand the skepticism. As a father, i am a father first and foremost. I understand the skepticism. But what i can tell you is what the science tells us. And that these readings are indicating that there are safe levels. Administrator regan, one expert says that final chloride disappears from the air pretty quickly. And exposure might have been really acute for the citizens of East Palestine that first night. But dwindled since then. I am wondering, how soon did the epa originally test to the air . And are you concerned that there might have been toxic exposure in that first 24 hours or 48hour period that may isnt being registered in your tests. Well, jake, what i can tell you is the u. S. Epa and the state epa and all of Emergency Responders, i am very grateful for the Emergency Responders because based on their actions we didnt see any loss of life. Epa, the u. S. Epa, we were onsite just hours after the derailment. And we have been there since. And we have been testing the air. And yes, we saw a spike in the beginning. But since that spike has dissipated, the Air Quality Readings have been below that threshold. So all i can do is really be very transparent and say that we trust the technology and the measurements. But if anyone, and i compel anyone that is having any kind of Health Symptoms to follow their doctors orders. Show up, to have these conversations with your local health authorities. Because we all want to get to the bottom of this. We want to connect all of these dots. And we want to make this community hole. And i want to hold Norfolk Southern accountable so that this community can be whole once again. I will say that a lot of the individuals here say that they have gone to the doctor, they have gone to the clinic, and the clinic seems completely unprepared for situations like this. But you just mentioned Norfolk Southern, and i know you have to go, we are going to be talking to the ceo of Norfolk Southern momentarily. What question do you want to ask him . I dont have any questions for the ceo of Norfolk Southern. I have some orders for the company. And the orders are that the company will comply with our order, which compels them to take full responsibility, full accountability for the trauma they have inflicted on this community and the damage that they have caused. And the epa will use all of its authority to do so. So i am hopeful that the company will comply with our order in a very orderly fashion, timely fashion, be efficient for the information we are looking for. Because we want to clean this mess up as quickly as possible. The people of East Palestine deserve better. They deserve immediate action. And the epa is going to do its part to ensure that we stand by and stand with this community. Administrator, regan thank you so much for your time this evening, you just heard from the man overseeing the federal clean up an East Palestine. Next, you are going to hear from the man the government ordered just now to pay for every single scent of the cost. The ceo of Norfolk Southern is here and no question will be off limits. 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