90,000 according to the tabulation from texas alone to new york, chicago. and obviously governor desantis has sent migrants to martha's vineyard as well as sacramento. do you support governor desantis doing that? would you do that as a governor? >> well, i'll talk about governor abbott, because i think he was courageous. he was the first one to do it. but look at what he has done. today i was watching governor abbott and mayor eric adams kind of having different things to say. governor abbott, if the president won't secure and give security to the people of texas, a governor has a job to protect your citizens. so he's bussing them, but where is he bussing them to? new york city is a sanctuary city. so you can't say we're open, we're accepting of everybody, and then when they come to you, say oh, i didn't mean it, never mind. >> you think it's been effective? >> i think it's been hugely effective because all of the sudden the rest of the country is feeling what texans have had