senate, senator grassly, senator graham, and ron johnson of wisconsin raising again this idea of ukrainian meddling. so they want to hear from this democratic consulted alexander who was looking into the manafort stuff. that's an effort to further muddy the waters and confuse. >> it's a conspiracy theory. and speaking of conspiracy theories, katherine, the judiciary committee hearing, the doj's inspector general report, it's expected that the fbi is going to say -- and again if the reporting is correct -- that the origins of the russia investigation, right, that it was launched properly. >> correct. >> there may have been some mistakes, right, human errors which shouldn't have happened but it was launched properly. if the reporting is correct, it's not going to be a good day for the president and for the conspiracy theorists who were hoping. >> no, i mean this ig was hand picked to basically promote the