had hacked emails and they were trying to get them. so, again, mueller couldn't make the case. that's not on trial here. but it's just really powerful evidence to sit here and listen to all those communications from the ceo of the campaign at that point in time, and they're desperate to get those emails. >> it's all so sleazy -- i mean allegedly. anyways, roger stone is in major trouble, right? he's facing some major trouble? >> yeah. i mean he's been charged with -- you know, we just talked about lying to congress, obstructing justice, and then tampering with a witness. that's the individual randy credico, who testified this week. really important that he's got all these charges against him. and, again, what the government is doing is really methodically, charge by charge, each element of the crime, they are putting on witnesses to provide that evidence to the jury. >> the charges include lying to congress, and late last night -- i want to play this because you mentioned it. the doj released this audio of stone. this is in 2017, his deposition by the house intel committee.