they can't be trusted with this kind of information and that we're going to have to get the original source here to find out exactly what took place. >> okay. so listen, there's also -- originally the white house told cnn that the ellipses it says do not indicate missing words or phrases. but this is not an exact transcript. so that issue dr what issues does that raise to you? because they're saying it's not specific. >> i think that the bottom line-u you can't trust had white house. they've been in a conspiracy to obstruct this investigation from day one. back to when it was just the russia investigation. and we're going to have to get this evidence directly from other sources rather than trust the white house on a transcript or anybody else coming from the white house. >> interesting. so there's also this detail. let me read it. it's from the "times." and it says, "after the call colonel vindman was given a hard copy of a rough transcript to make updates and corrections according to a person familiar