and then there's what he says about the diplomats giving depositions to congress behind closed doors in the impeachment inquiry. >> they're interviewing ambassadors who i've never heard of. i don't know who these people are. i've never heard of them. and i have great respect for some of them. one of them said just recently, a very, very highly respected man. i'm not going to get into their names, said, no, no, we were very, very bothered by joe biden and his son back during the obama administration. he said, we were very -- he's supposed to be their witness. don't forget, many of these people were put there during obama, during clinton, during the never-trumper bush era. you know you had a never-trumper bush. you have heard of those. those people might be worse than the democrats, the never-trumpers. the good news is they're dying off fast. they're on artificial respiration, i think.