their approach is admit it and so what. get over it. >> that's exactly right. they learned a lesson which is the thing that -- >> it didn't work. >> get over it. >> it didn't work. they were hoping it would work. i'm not sure why he said what he said. it may have been to try and down play the doral stuff. the strategy has been what they did during the mueller probe. yes, first deny it. and we did it nobody cares. they learned his base of support doesn't care. we saw poll numbers shift. beforehand is it okay for him to solicit information from foreign officials. people were like eh. and he admitted it. numbers shot up among republicans. this however just the scope of it the fact donald trump can't say that was trump jr. having an e-mail exchange in june 2016. he is immersed in that. that's a problem.