preventing future misconduct because you could impeach this guy every day of the week and he still is going to be there and he might keep doing this. >> we'll talk about impeachment later in the show. carl, i want to stay focused on today's release of the rough transcript, et cetera and a number of times in this transcript you see president trump bringing up attorney general barr. in fact, not once, not twice, five times in the rough transcript he brings up barr, that barr will be working in coordination with the ukrainians and rudy giuliani, president trump's personal attorney to investigate vice president biden. are you surprised that president trump sees barr as kind of like his own private detective/personal attorney? >> not at all. all you have to do is look at barr's handling of the mueller inquiry but more than that, barr at the present time is conducting an investigation