panned out. about two weeks ago, we were talking about -- folks were talking about impeaching brett kavanaugh. i think that helps donald trump. and so as somebody that wants donald trump out of the white house because i think he is a national security risk and he threatens american values on a daily basis, what i want is something that does not help donald trump. every time the words biden, corruption, and ukraine are mentioned, it helps donald trump. he loves to create this murkiness and muddy the waters. >> so, look, rigging the game, which, mark, would be the benefit to president trump if they were to try to impeach him. they used the system against me for bad reasons. that works the other way, that he will not comply with these investigations. he will not -- he keeps saying he's transparent, but he keeps not being transparent. if you guys have high ground on the ukraine assertions, why not