>> and blackface means something different in the united states than brownface means in canada. >> i feel like where do we draw the line with this? is this something that should end his career? you know, no. but because of things i just listed and other domestic issues in canada, this is going to hurt him there. but his record has been good on civil rights there in canada from what i understand. >> david, i know you want to weigh in but i just want to play this because he said it wasn't his first time doing something like this. watch. >> when i was in high school, i dressed up at a talent show and sang "deo" with -- with makeup on. >> so what do you think, david? >> so i agree with tara, don, that context matters and that this is not just like the governor northam situation. there was no one in that picture next to him in a kkk hood. that being said, i still think this is pretty egregious if for no other reason than, you know, this wasn't ancient history. this is 2001. he's the son of a politician, someone who likely had plans to