true history. hasn't all of that been taught that all of these people are so upset about, adam? >> well, i think newt actually told what you his problem is. it's okay to talk about slavery in the context of a redemption ark for white people. if you talk about it as a vehicle for redemption of the ideals of the founders, that's fine. if you talk about slavery from a black perspective with the black people at the center of it, that's defensive and dee legitimatizing. there is an ideological nugget of truth here in that if you look back and you see the country as fundamentally shaped by this institution of slavery, its economy, its governing institutions, by this institution that existed on this continent for longer than the united states has existed, then all of a sudden you have a particular responsibility to rectify the harm that was caused by that institution. and i think that's a place that people like mr. newt gingrich really don't want to go. and i think that's why there is