look, look at what we're being asked to believe here, mr. lemon. we're being asked to believe that an american film actor and a mexican soap opera star were able to find the most wanted man in the world when the mexican government couldn't. it doesn't hold water. it's beyond belief. >> some people would draw the conclusion, well, maybe sean penn had something to do with it because he met with him and maybe gave him up somehow. you don't believe that? >> no. in mr. penn's article, he says he passed two government checkpoints. a very well known actress in messco went through these checkpoints. so we keep hearing story after story and the stories always change. you as a journalist, me as an investigator know the first story is rarely the true story and that's certainly the case here. >> is there something you want to know about el chapo's capt e capture? why do you want to see an unedited version of the tape.