keep things secret, certainly in the united states. but there is certainly mistrust. that's what i was -- inartfully trying to get it with my question. by calling it a conspiracy theory i guess i wanted him to try to get at the fundamental distrust that so many gun owners have out there about further background checks or what the president would call common sense gun reform. >> you know the terrible toll that gun violence takes on families. but what was the most meaningful moment at this town hall for you? >> you know, there's not a -- you know, one thing that jumps out at me. you know, the wife of chris kyle, you know, someone who has served this country so honorably that he had to die in the manner that he did. i thought it was interesting to hear her question. i talked to her later and