now we have to find people to fix the mistake, to fix the error that was made. i know that brazil doesn't have that international political clout to promote that in this perverse rational of conflicts in the world. but i can say to you i will dedicate a lot of my time to find a way for someone to start talking about peace. i was with the german chancellor a week ago. >> and he asked you to send l leopards to ukraine, and you said no. >> no. it was not the tanks. it was ammunition. >> okay. ammunition. >> translator: i didn't want to send because if i send the ammunition, i would join the war. if i sent the ammunition from brazil, the ammunition you're asking for -- >> but you just agreed it's defense. >> translator: i don't want to join the war. i want to end the war. i don't want to join the war. this is the dilemma and this is my commitment. i'm visiting china next month and i'll talk a lot with president xi jinping about the role china has to play on the peace issues.