the trial happens in 2024, he's going to claim it's election interference. the he loses and runs again, he will claim it will be election interference. any prosecution of this man in his view is election interference because nobody is ever allowed to prosecute donald trump. nobody is allowed to hold accountable donald trump. the only people that can hold him accountable is himself. and no one else is permitted. the idea of holding this in 2026 was preposterous. she gave him more time. that was sufficient. that was reasonable. i thought the government would move too quickly to do january. wasn't enough time for pretrial motions. putting it in march gives you buffer room. i think it gets pushed to summer at this point. i'm certain we have appellate litigation. given what is a straightforward case. >> summer, of course, not the election. and october surprise. i wonder if we get to that point. there was a moment the attorney, john laura, who we heard from