de-escalate things. it's something that we would like to pro-she'd and talk about. >> let me ask you on de-escalation, how are we supposed to know? i know not me sitting here and you sitting here at this table, but is there some warning? are we sitting ducks waiting for every sort of chess piece to be made by putin? are we going to have some understanding do they have everything in place to accomplish this? the troop numbers still very substantial. is it enough? >> as one who has engaged in direct combat with tanks and armored vehicles, they absolutely have enough combat power to slice ukraine in half and do whatever they want to, especially in the eastern part. >> really? >> there is no doubt. of course it's growing by the day. so we have to take these dispositions very seriously. and to your point earlier about, you know, putin's saying one thing but doing another, we have to look at what he's doing. forget about what he's saying. we have to look at the type of