he by the way would later sue and got some of them back. >> but on that point, congress realized, of course, the transparency notion, the idea of why the american people deal with the c documents and also the idea of potential criminality involved here. and i appreciate the history, because it gives us the context we need on this as to why the norm was changed. and let me go back to norm. the norm in this conversation other than the norms that are often broken here, norm, let pe ask you. first of all, it's one thing to have it changed. but we're talking about some things reportedly as top secret documents? yeah, sure. the president of the united states, as you know, can declassify whatever the president wants. it's sort of the prerogative, it's good to be the king in that respect, even though we don't have one. but now he's the former president. what does it mean when there might be top secret or classified documents contained in the possessions of even a former president? is the same prerogative still available? >> well, it's not good, laura.