violence where protesters have grabbed tire irons and surrounded police and they've had to disengage. so, there are -- it's just -- it's an illegal blockade. it is a protest that, you know, we support the hallmark of our respective democracies. it's all about understanding and being able to listen to people and communicate, express oneself. that's okay. what's not okay here is blocking the busiest international commercial corridor between the united states and canada that every single day carrying $400 million worth of goods back and forth between our respective countries. >> and you say the idea of the international crossing in particular and we're balancing the notions of people having right to to protest in a peaceful way that's not disruptive, perhaps, as well. you mentioned the idea if the end game is not clear, if there's not the coordination, how does this end then? you're in a very precarious position knowing that it hurts your community. it's hurting frankly north america as well. so, how does it end? what does it take to get it to