not -- will not stop until ukraine is back to being part of russia from their perspective. >> there's a reason this region is called the blood land. president biden says russia can still deescalate here. but is that in vladimir putin's nature? >> not normally, john. very few times has he really deescalated. every time he's done something, highway has grand territory or made a huge imprint on the target country. probably the mildest attack he ever did was in 2007 against estonia and that was only a cyber attack. when he went after jor, the country of georgia, and went after crimea, that showed his true colors. and it's not in his nature to withdraw, to lose face, or to do anything that would show him to be weak. >> so, cnn has really