often than investigators or police officers. is he correct in that? >> to a -- yes. because sometimes when -- as a police officer, i'm talking to somebody if they're in custody, if they revoke their rights at any time they can say, i want to talk to a lawyer. so you're limited to what they say. now, this was a voluntary interview that he wanted to have that he searched out andrew jureky to do this even against his lawyer's advice. >> and with a lawyer saying don't answer that question, my client doesn't have to talk about that he's just doing an interview. >> correct. so in that respect, andrew had a lot more leeway. >> things that are not admissible in court, you can talk about in an interview, which may lead to something else? >> as long as he's there