if we convict officer loehmann and send a different message and it goes up to the appellate court and it stands and ultimately reaches the supreme court and it stands, then we'll begin to send a new message that now we've got to look at the philosophies and the cultures behind these actions and make real radical change. >> pastor matthews, thank you. >> thank you. >> a lot of celebrities fear take a stand on hot-button issues. nick cannon is not one of them. he is here. he is joining me to share his thoughts on the chokehold protests around the country. and much, much more. that's next. eeeeeeeeee financial noise financial noise financial noise