reality, man. okay. and they're not facing reality. this is where we're going to end up from the get-go. -- let's put it that way. >> i feel like we went through a four or five month detour to end up where we should have been all along. >> i just think there is a lot of people that would like to see him fail. i think there are still people loyal to kevin mccarthy and would like to say i told you so and don't care if they bring the country down or not. >> that is from tom burchette, offering no regrets for that vote. and the members who did push out kevin mccarthy have no regrets for it. i did talk to bob good, part of effort to oust kevin mccarthy and he said that johnson's job is not insecure and because johnson is walking into this position right now. so he said he could not blame