>> have you been shot? >> twice. >> have you been close to death? >> yeah. but thank god, you know what i mean? >> how many of your home boys have been killed? >> most of them. >> how many times have you been in jail? >> three times, believe it or not. and the last one, i was facing years. what helped me was the lord when i was in the jail. he take me out from there. i'm here. from that time, the lord told me, if you behave, now you will become my son. >> after his jail house redemption, this former outlaw became a preacher and worked long hours to raise his family. though his days with ms-13 are