>> i think you've really done a great job to carve out a wonderful identity for yourselves and i really, really appreciate that. i think you did a nice job. >> thank you. >> big brother dave came in and stuck up for us. >> i was just, you know, turning point. >> audiences got better. finally, we got a longer renewal than 13 weeks. >> and then, somebody who worked the network went to visit his kid in college. and realized that everybody, that age, is talking about that show. >> i'm hearing from college kids, like, this is their guy. conan o'brien. they love him. and slowly, very, very slowly, conan started to find it. but jay is still had his ass handed to him. i was scared to death. >> dave beat our brains out, for two years. and there were, certainly, questions on the part of my