was the sense among those voters in particular the. democratic party and elite, college educated party that looks down on people who work with their hands, who work with their backs -- and basically, biden's whole speech was, you know what -- i hear you. identify with you. >> it's very important. >> basically, saying, this is your grandfather's democrat party. >> i thought that was really important in japan where that sense of elite-ism. and he pointed, out in particular, some of these infrastructure jobs and other jobs i 100, 000, hundred 20,000 dollar a year and you don't have to have a college degree. that says something. and i think it is true for him. and i know that you cannot just get out there and brag on yourself. and i think he did a good job. what a lot of this stuff that the democrats got done, sometimes with republicans and sometimes on our own in the last two years you won't even see the benefit of that for another 12 months or 18 months as some of these infrastructure