at this point it has come out and you outlined it very well in your leadup to this story. we know what happened. i don't know if there's much of an inquiry or much digging that needs to be done. we just need secretary austin to answer the question why did he think that it was appropriate for him not to tell the president that all of this was going on. i think we do need to hear an answer from that and i think the president needs to evaluate his relationship with the secretary of defense based on what happened and based on that answer. >> does that mean that you think that he should potentially consider firing him? >> they've got to have that conversation. i don't know. at the moment i can't think of a plausible explanation. i do just want to say that the republicans -- i mean, they're going to make hay out of this. they're going to try to turn it -- they took four years to figure out benghazi because they wanted to sort of cause problems for hillary clinton more than they wanted to get answers. so what i'm trying to do is get answers and have a straightforward approach to this, not to politicize it. but i think in the short term