>> and also, i want to lead as an example that we all have that parent dogs within ourselves. we all live on this planet. we all have things that we do, whether we're conscious of it or not, that hurt the environment just by existing in the society. and we're always at odds and that's okay. we can still be at paradox and still want to help and save the environment, right? >> and maybe instead of getting defensive, say maybe there's a better way to fill this want or need exactly in a way that's better for all life, exactly when we bring down the defensiveness, it really opens everything up of more discussions and solutions it's pretty interesting. >> be sure to tune in. cnn film presents blue carbon natures, hidden power at premiere sunday, 9:00 p.m. eastern pacific, right here only on cnn. thanks for your time tonight. hope you have a great weekend. cnn news night with abby phillip starts now