you can in a case like this, with passion and reason, you could say they prove their case. what came out of here, you determine what justices. >> and so then helped me with the second level. he's helped making the opening argument for the defense. he did the prosecution. you're the lawyer at the table? what are you doing? you watch him, you watching the jury trying to figure out who's doing what i'm watching both, but i'm not a big believer in watching body language or facial expressions because we've all had the experience, a jordan nods at you throughout the entire island, you lose. so it's something that doesn't really work. >> you know, it's funny because you'll sometime be watching majority of the whole trial it could be months long and you think i got this juror at the end of the day that's the one you did everybody hear not that i think they keep it thematic. right. i think that's how you captivate your audience. you keep it really generic, just giving them a sense of what you'll do. but i'm looking for what the defense will do at the end of the day quickly you can talk about michael cohen being a perjurer. you can talk about stormy daniels being unsavory.