>> no, no. i thought it was beautiful. there you go. [ applause ] >> i just thought anything that is interesting ought to have a place on a talk show rather than young pretty actresses who use the word "excited" in every sentence. >> you're not frequently seen on television. is that by choice? >> well, of course, it is the most impressive medium of all. it's the medium that's going to either save america or send it down into demise. there's no question about it. >> i'm getting out of it myself. >> really? >> we'll be back after this. >> what you do is book the best possible guests from different kinds of businesses, maybe not everybody in show business. some politics, some newspaper people. get them all on the stage together and hope that something works. but it's a great show. it's a great platform for people who have something to say. >> the point is they take these