was this an evolution from one to the other? >> just the older ones. see i'm 46 years old, these kids are 18. the beat generation was a generation of the attitude and pleasure in life and tenderness. i believe in order and piety. >> here's the progenitor really of the counterculture kind of disowning his own babies and try to make sense of a decade, the '60s, that he didn't feel parry to. >> apparently, some kind of dionysian movement in which i did not intend. this was pure in my heart. >> all sorts of people have been writing various articles about the hippies, usually about the hippies as if they were animals, something to look at. thus we've gotten hundreds and literally thousands of people coming out to haight-ashbury to watch people. it makes haight-ashbury a terribly unpleasant place