Want to discuss this in more with cnn, senior law enforcement analysts, andrew mccabe. he's a former deputy director of the fbi, and robert ray, the former counsel to donald trump during his first impeachment. andrew, typically a convicted defendant, meets with the probation should officer one-on-one without without an attorney present? >> why is judge marsha and letting todd blanche trump's attorney join him in this session well that's a great question. we'll i would expect that the judge probably thinks that mr. blanche is presence will help the meeting take place in a more professional and controlled way. i think it's unlikely that blanche will attempt to prohibit questioning on certain questions. you may be able to help trump. this is trump and his answers to the questions i think at the end of the day, it's probably a decision that favors and supports a more productive exchange in one