just those remedies. how far can this judge go? they've stayed some of the most severe remedies. it is not a fast appellate process in new york. there's two level of appeals. it could take years before we get a final answer. and potentially the judge could rule the trump organization and trump personally and the sons could no longer do business in new york. >> potentially. and he's already signaled some direction towards that with his initial ruling on partial summary judgment. but raising questions today about the sons. >> yeah, for trump this is obviously very, very sensitive indeed. kristen, trump gave some remarks after leaving the court in new york where you are and you had a chance to ask him a key question. tell us about that. >> wolf, this was about a separate case. a reminder trump went down to the federal court in d.c. to listen to his legal team really argue his immunity claim. and a hypothetical a judge brought up to his lawyer