myself, mickey burgman and others proceed to try to help secure the release of travis king. he is a troubled young man. he went across in an unauthorized fashion, but nonetheless, we need to bring him back. so we started that effort. i don't wan to get into too many details. but the fact that the family is reached out to us, you know, the prime contact is the u.s. military, the u.n. command. they're communicating with the north koreans. but i think it is important that we find ways to support the family and bring travis king home. >> you have had any contact at all, governor, with the north korean officials and, if so, what exactly have you heard from them? >> well, i don't want to get fl into that, wolf. these things are sensitive. what i think is very important is that there be a line of