after the destruction, including in the regions russian-speaking that he considered as being so close as to be brothers. the way he's been treating the cities, these people, these civilians, the children, means that he has created really not one people, but people that will be his enemies. >> if putin does ultimately succeed in conquering ukraine, are you worried that he's going to turn his attention to other former soviet states, such as, for example, georgia? >> well, his intention, as you mentioned, was already turned once to georgia. russian attention to georgia is something that historically has been quite often turned to georgia. so of course we are always attentive, always worried because we have an occupation