that is not a good sign. and the buildup that we've never seen before, on the european content, an invasion that we haven't seen the likes of since world war ii is quite concerning. >> but don't you you think that the russians know, putin knows how severely punished they would be by the sanctions not just from the u.s. but from all of europe, for all practical purposes, it would have a devastating impact on the russian economy and the russians would lose thousands of casualties. >> you would think so. and you would think that the threat of sanctions would deter him. i've been a proponent of sanctions before an invasion because he has been provocative and aggressive on the border. this is a start last march and has gone on for almost a year now with little deterrence. and i thought the president's speech was candid, sobering and powerful. but, you know, the rhetoric doesn't meet the actions. or maybe vice versa.