on january 2nd. it's come to light that as violence was already happening and as all these people worried about massively increased violence in the city, locking down the city potentially, john eastman was apparently communicating with the lawyer for mike pence while pence was being protected in a safe zone in the capitol, e-mailing pence and his lawyer to say even though this is all happening, he should still desert fi some of those states and turn the election to trump. so i think everyone has a right to hear what john eastman has to say and i hope we get his testimony, absolutely. s >> jeffrey, our new reporting plus the extensive reporting by "the washington post" in recent days prove we are really only just beginning to understand how close we came to losing our democracy on january 6th as the need for a thorough v investigation of that event ever been more clear? >> it's never been more clear and it is worth knowing, it is worth pointing out gfen the fact that we've seen so much video, is how much we don't know about