some criticism of -- of the president for getting involved. but that kcriticism is going to come from people who don't support the president, anyway. and don't support the justice department proceeding against steve bannon and the other people defying the committee. so, you know, i -- i don't think a lot of minds are going to be changed by this criticism. but you're right, that this criticism will -- will -- will come, especially since president trump was accused so often of interfering with the operations of the justice department. >> let me get ryan nobles on the hill. are you bracing for that kind of criticism, ryan? >> well, i do think you know, we should make clear it's not as if the president said that he wants the justice department or he is going to instruct the justice department to do this, i should say. he just thinks that they should. obviously, he is the president and whatever he says weighs pretty heavily but i do think, wolf, that in the grand scheme of all of this, it also plays back to the -- the select committee's long-term strategy here. their ultimate goal is not to