capitol offense. there's surveillance footage and when you're talking about prosecuting a >> we checked. there was a recent survey that came out from pugh research center. and i am checking it right now. about half the american public believe the punishments for those involved in the january-6th insurrection haven't been severe enough. only 20% said the punishments are too severe. what does that indicate to you? >> you know, to paraphrase donald rumsfeld, you go into court with the laws you have and the sentencing rules you have and the charges people got for trespass, obstructing congress, and so on, those are the penalties they come with and if people want to change that, yes, then go to congress and make those more severe penalties. but it's not the justice department is being more lenient than they should be. that's just the penalties that come for those crimes. >> elliot williams, thank you very much. coming upon up, vice president kamala harris's office