which were the guidelines in a police van like that so that's clear, and the police have said he should have gotten medical treatment much more quickly than he eventually received by the time he got it it was clearly way too late. what's your reaction also, to the report that what the police are saying is that they only learned about this fourth stop of that van not from police officers from the interviews that they conducted but you from a private security camera that got the video of that? that looks pretty strange, doesn't it? >> it looks very strange. and i think some of the information that the community is really concerned about. again, wolf, we take it back to the beginning of this entire saga. unfortunately, the police weren't able to tell folks why he was chased why he was ultimately detained and arrested and what he was charged with. so it's information like that that hasn't really come out, and then when you have a couple weeks later that there was an additional stop that's never