burn businessesing with loot? i don't care if they're five years old. if they're in a position to do that that needs to be stopped. we're talking about a handful of teenagers overwhelmed one of the biggest police departments in the country? i don't buy it. >> how about the number just watching cnn, you could see those were not juveniles burning down the buildings and looting the cvs. those were grown ups. >> so jeffrey toobin what you're saying is the commissioner was wrong when he didn't send in the troops send in the police to deal with it because he was told that they were a bunch of kids as opposed to adults? >> absolutely. and he didn't have to be told. he could have turned on his television and saw who was looting. those were not children looting. and as tom said even if they were children, dow don't get to loot if you're a 14-year-old old. but they weren't children. >> pamela brown as a quick