carolina when what you've seen would you also issue charges potentially against the second police officer who arrived on the scene after the shooting, officer clarence habersham? >> well, i think it's important to remember that the officer that came up habersham, obviously came up app as backup to officer slager. so i think what has to be determined in all fairness one involved wolf there needs to be an ongoing investigation to make real determination what was the language used at that scene and what was meant by it and i think that's not going to be determined by the video we see or the short piece of footage that we're listening to but it's going to require further investigation in all fairness to that officer, to that department and to that community overall. >> fairness is clearly important. >> very important. >> serm.certainly. what about the new exchange of audio we just heard? you can hear the police officer, michael slager responding to a