will. what you're saying, bob, is that this is highly unusual for an iranian shiite to convert to become a sunni muslim, is that right? >> it's very, very rare. i can't think of another case, wolf, where this has happened. and also the whole idea this was probably what they call a martyrdom operation, he knew he was going to die and didn't put down his gun when the police came to the windows, and that is unusual, too, because iranians just don't do that. so this phenomenon of self-conversion and turning to jihadi islam seems to me to be getting worse and not better. >> tom, this individual, man haron monis, he was well well-known to law enforcement in australia, had been actually charged as an accessory to the murder of his ex-wife. and she was murdered in a brutal way, assaulted and then burnt. he's charged repeatedly with sexual assault. he pled guilty to writing awful